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Donald Ian Rankin

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12. Those statistics don't mean what you think they mean.
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 02:01 PM
Nov 2014

There are roughly 6 times as many white people as black people in the USA (roughly 72% to 12%), so absolute numbers don't really mean anything; the meaningful number is per capita.

That table has 6131 murders in it, of which 5718 were identified as involving whites and blacks only:

In this table, the first column is the number of murders in that category, the second is the number you'd get if anyone were equally likely to be murdered by anyone, and the third is the ratio.

White people killing white people 2,630 4200 0.63
Black people killing black people 2447 0116 21.1
Black people killing white people 0448 0700 0.64
White people killing black people 0193 0700 0.28

What the statistics show is that there are far, *far* more black on black murders per capita than there are any other combination of victim's race and murderer's race.

If you control for wealth/poverty, that will become less striking *within any given wealth band*, but it's not obvious that that's the right way to look at it.




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black on black murder [View all] cali Nov 2014 OP
And 93% of whites are killed by whites. JaneyVee Nov 2014 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #4
Quick question ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #6
That didn't take long. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #7
She'll be back. uppityperson Nov 2014 #8
What WAS her previous screen name? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #9
ah! marym625 Nov 2014 #10
Anyone know pizza posters response? JaneyVee Nov 2014 #11
Those statistics don't mean what you think they mean. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #12
True, per capita. But... JaneyVee Nov 2014 #15
Which is a technically true, but deeply misleading, statement. Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2014 #16
Look at the absolute number of offenders in your table hack89 Nov 2014 #13
That's incorrect. I'll help you. linuxman Nov 2014 #18
Is an issue raised by supporters of institutional and personal racism when called upon their shit TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #2
Guilliani wears his racism and bigotry on his sleeve for all to see...why is he so welcome to Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #3
But the per capita murder rates between the races is not equal hack89 Nov 2014 #14
Before Mike Brown was killed there were no homocides in Ferguson in 2014. SweetieD Nov 2014 #17
How many black police officers kill white civilians? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #19
The statistics bear Giuliani out: there IS more black on black crime--but there are causes for that Wella Nov 2014 #20
One thing has nothing to do with another. It is so infuriating that they are getting away with this. jillan Nov 2014 #21
No different than what the Germans did to the Jews Demsrule86 Nov 2014 #22
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