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Comrade Grumpy

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3. What would you do, Rhinodawg?
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 02:42 PM
Dec 2014

Here's what I would do:

1. Create informal local truces and ceasefires to begin to stop the killing. This is a process the UN backs.

2. Work toward a negotiated political settlement between the regime and opposition forces. Some sort of power-sharing arrangement, perhaps localized.

3. Don't demand Assad's ouster as the starting point. He isn't going anywhere anytime soon. A medium-term goal might be open elections in 6 years, when Assad's current term is up.

4. Work to unite all non-jihadi factions in the struggle against ISIS and Al Nusra.

Notice I said nothing about arming rebels, creating buffer zones, or attacking Syria.

Practically on the level of genocide. Rhinodawg Dec 2014 #1
Well, it's hard to know what to do. There's so many factors, there's Russia TwilightGardener Dec 2014 #2
What would you do, Rhinodawg? Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #3
Sounds good...when does it happen? Rhinodawg Dec 2014 #5
It already happened in Homs. Looks like it could happen in Aleppo. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #10
We can't have it both ways yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #7
Is there any number of dead civilians that would change you mind ? Rhinodawg Dec 2014 #9
In the United States, yes. yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #15
Ok....so a certain number of dead americans you would favor war. Rhinodawg Dec 2014 #23
Well 911 for one and we went after Osama. yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #25
Many considered FDR a 'warmonger' before Pearl Harbor because he cared about dead civilians - even pampango Dec 2014 #17
The question is what the US can do that doesn't result in more dead civilians. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #19
Agreed. "Heating up the civil war doesn't seem to be the answer." A military solution to the protest pampango Dec 2014 #20
That's why I favor starting small, with local truces. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #21
That sounds like a plausible strategy. n/t pampango Dec 2014 #22
Still think your idea has merit, but here is an idea from Juan Cole's site. pampango Dec 2014 #28
Not genocide, unless you're willing to consider auto-genocide. This is a civil war. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #12
A lot of neighboring countries and european countries Quantess Dec 2014 #18
That photo breaks my heart leftynyc Dec 2014 #4
Imagine if Israel killed 1/10000 of that.... Rhinodawg Dec 2014 #6
Nobody here gives a shit leftynyc Dec 2014 #16
In before someone tries to pin this all on Obama... Blue_Tires Dec 2014 #8
Well, now that you mention Obama... Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #11
I agree PBO's Syria policy has been an almost textbook "What Not to Do" Blue_Tires Dec 2014 #14
Most of the refugees are women and children. lpbk2713 Dec 2014 #13
All so one guy can be a dictator. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #24
I might have agreed with you in the past, Rhinodawg Dec 2014 #26
Assad's tyranny caused ISIS. Without him, there aren't the same dynamics at play. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #27
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