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951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
125. I disagree to a certain degree
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 10:29 PM
Dec 2014
In these times, black lives matter


I don't care if its a unarmed black man (Eric Garner) just standing on a street and getting strangled to death or a unarmed homeless white man (Kelly Thomas) being beaten and strangled to death or a Hispanic man (Frank Mendoza) being gunned down for simply trying to escape from a parolee that broke into his house, all lives matter and will continue to matter.

I cannot stand for this idea that a race of people's lives matter over another when gangs of psychos are going around killing everyone, these cops are killing people left and right and it needs to end. If you can't say that All Lives Matter then you've already lost because you've created racial division instead of addressing the problem with mentally ill, gang types within police departments murdering people.

These psycho cops love that some are making it about race instead of about them because they know when a black person gets killed, many whites sit and look the other way and when a white person gets killed many blacks sit and look the other way.

By the way #AllLivesMatter and #BlackLivesMatter while noble in many respects isnt a real goal, as along as police officers with psychological issues are employed within these departments, allowed to kill people with impunity and there isnt a screening process implemented to remove these police officers, no amount of protests, no amount of hash tags, no amount of "additional training", no amount of body cameras will change anything.

Lets not forget about the baby who was blown up in his crib because they didn't want someone they suspected of selling drugs, flushing it.

And lets not forget about the multiple women Fullerton Officer Albert Rincon sexually assaulted while on duty and the Orange County DA declined to press charges but the city settled with 2.

And lets not forget about the bicyclist who was ran over because Deputy Andrew Francis Wood in Los Angeles decided to work on his computer while driving.

They're not only shooting people, they're raping and seriously injuring them too.

Finally, let me remind you that while Mike Brown's murder wasn't captured on tape, Jason Conoscenti was. He was shot in the back multiple times and killed as he ran away from cops, you can see him writhing on the ground as he takes his final breaths.

His crime? Allegedly stealing from a Target store.



This is why I stand firm and say All Lives Matter.
Black lives matter pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #1
What this is all really about is getting some accountability for the police. Warpy Dec 2014 #2
You have a point there. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #6
deracializing it will be premature until race is no longer a factor.. RedCappedBandit Dec 2014 #49
"For now, trying to deracialize it is premature." woo me with science Dec 2014 #64
It means that it's premature, that's what it means. Warpy Dec 2014 #71
What are the political goals NOW? woo me with science Dec 2014 #73
I can't really speak for them Warpy Dec 2014 #75
They are demanding demilitarization of the police, woo me with science Dec 2014 #90
Reconvene the grand juries in Ferguson and Staten Island brush Dec 2014 #127
All Lives Matter 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #3
proportionally heaven05 Dec 2014 #124
I disagree to a certain degree 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #125
To stand firmly for what you believe in is principled heaven05 Dec 2014 #134
i'm convinced people who do that are racists JI7 Dec 2014 #4
No it's good intent misplaced daredtowork Dec 2014 #10
I'm not convinced that it's really a thing, TBH, from all I've seen. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #5
hmm - could be a #notyourshield in the making daredtowork Dec 2014 #15
And what's really sad is, in that regard.....(apologize for the off-topic semi-rant, but) AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #17
And what's really sad is the anti-GamerGate side wasn't entirely innocent either XemaSab Dec 2014 #47
Just take the free money dude. JTFrog Dec 2014 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2014 #72
Clueless? XemaSab Dec 2014 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2014 #78
+1 n/t R B Garr Dec 2014 #98
Speak for yourself. #LookInTheMirror. nt AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #83
Did you really take a thread about police violence against black people and hijack it LeftyMom Dec 2014 #80
There was no hijacking. Sorry to burst your bubble. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author XemaSab Dec 2014 #93
No one brought up any other subject. Just your usual and unending campaign to distort Number23 Dec 2014 #100
Please explain "real thing" marym625 Dec 2014 #35
My apologies, but I thought I was clear...... AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #84
wtf are you saying about trolls? Kali Dec 2014 #103
I'm not sure why you're having an issue understanding that.....no offense meant. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #105
Sorry, I still don't see what you mean is marym625 Dec 2014 #120
K&R! marym625 Dec 2014 #7
Just curious... SoapBox Dec 2014 #8
I can pull it in the morning marym625 Dec 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author marym625 Dec 2014 #40
Please see my reply in post 39 marym625 Dec 2014 #41
Is that 4x number per capita or total? madville Dec 2014 #31
Sorry, I have to run marym625 Dec 2014 #34
Just quickly marym625 Dec 2014 #39
that sounds the same as men who argue with #Women'sLivesMatter BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2014 #9
Great analogy marym625 Dec 2014 #12
let it....but keep saying it! BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2014 #79
I hope so. n/t marym625 Dec 2014 #117
Pretty much what I was thinking, Blanche. There's some anti-choice group that co-opts .... Hekate Dec 2014 #13
yep. overly scrupulous. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2014 #81
That's what I was trying to say (but a lot more concise!) +1 daredtowork Dec 2014 #77
interesting Behind the Aegis Dec 2014 #14
Well that sucks. Luminous Animal Dec 2014 #16
The racist cannot comprehend people of color except in relation to white people. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #18
Damn straight XemaSab Dec 2014 #115
And "normal" is often defined as what is favorable to the Capitalist ruling class. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #116
Will people still be using the term cis-gendered ten years from now? oberliner Dec 2014 #118
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #19
well said Marrah_G Dec 2014 #20
Black Males Are 21 Times More Likely To Be Shot By Police Than White Males uponit7771 Dec 2014 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #96
Which do you think is true? NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #97
I don't do twitter, so I really don't understand how hashtags work. stone space Dec 2014 #22
It's a pathetic thing to do. HappyMe Dec 2014 #23
Some people can't stand it when something's not about them alcibiades_mystery Dec 2014 #24
Chris Rock was right when he said black progress has mostly been because of whites... randome Dec 2014 #25
Reverance for all lives. 840high Dec 2014 #126
I don't see why both can't be used at the same time. CJCRANE Dec 2014 #26
And, in fact, they have been! AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #85
Rec. I agree completely. Bonobo Dec 2014 #27
Internet colonialism sucks. JaneyVee Dec 2014 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #101
Black Lives Matter. Half-Century Man Dec 2014 #29
Obviously all lives matter. And no one is saying it is ok if people who aren't Black are killed by ellenrr Dec 2014 #30
Do you feel like, marym625 Dec 2014 #37
oh man, try talking to real bigots!... ellenrr Dec 2014 #38
You are really awesome marym625 Dec 2014 #43
why thank you, Marym! I've never gotten such a nice comment on DU.:) ellenrr Dec 2014 #50
DU isn't perfect, but yeah, from my own personal experience..... AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #108
Isn't Staten Island known to have a lot of cops who live there? nt ellenrr Dec 2014 #42
Okay, so what are the goals of the protests, to address racism? woo me with science Dec 2014 #48
Yep, I don't agree with trying to change this solgan at this time...... socialist_n_TN Dec 2014 #32
you make a good point... two things are true ellenrr Dec 2014 #33
"somehow we have to make both points". Yep, that's it in a nutshell....... socialist_n_TN Dec 2014 #57
i've seen this used on signage by protestors nashville_brook Dec 2014 #36
What are the political goals of the protests? woo me with science Dec 2014 #44
you seem to be asking me the question? ellenrr Dec 2014 #52
I think they absolutely have a goal. They want this shit to STOP. woo me with science Dec 2014 #61
Of course "all lives matter" etherealtruth Dec 2014 #45
Yes, and how do we address that disproportionate brutality? woo me with science Dec 2014 #51
Change the way we police ....? etherealtruth Dec 2014 #53
I agree ellenrr Dec 2014 #54
The goal of political protests has to be political change. woo me with science Dec 2014 #59
The federal database idea is the only concrete suggestion in your list. randome Dec 2014 #63
Ending the federal programs that militarize police is a very concrete demand. woo me with science Dec 2014 #65
I have no argument with ending the program. randome Dec 2014 #66
cops caught illegally spying on protesters questionseverything Dec 2014 #99
well stated La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2014 #62
I wouldn't think it was a big deal Rolo Dec 2014 #46
"Black Lives Matter" handmade34 Dec 2014 #55
rec & kick MerryBlooms Dec 2014 #56
++++10000000 nt kelliekat44 Dec 2014 #58
Kelly Thomas's life mattered too. n/t Mojo Electro Dec 2014 #60
I'm kinda afraid to ask, it sounds like it should be somebody I know of, but who is Kelly Thomas? nt ellenrr Dec 2014 #68
Murdered by Fullerton, CA police in 2011. Karmadillo Dec 2014 #88
so terrible... ellenrr Dec 2014 #94
All lives matter. Orsino Dec 2014 #67
Most in America don't need to be reminded that white lives matter. OrwellwasRight Dec 2014 #86
Seems a large majority of people don't want to face up to America's racism problem Matariki Dec 2014 #70
"ALM" is good on its own--but if one says it in response to "BLM" *then* it's an effort MisterP Dec 2014 #74
All lives should have the same rights Omnith Dec 2014 #87
It's another angle to the "notallmen" meme..... boston bean Dec 2014 #89
Not really, though. Not by itself. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #107
both and...not either or noiretextatique Dec 2014 #91
Reminds me of Animal Farm. Hatchling Dec 2014 #92
I haven't seen any hashtag called #blacklivesmattermore gollygee Dec 2014 #95
No, no. Hatchling Dec 2014 #121
Aaaah OK gollygee Dec 2014 #123
Were not allowed to be angry or mourn. were not allowed to speak against injustice. SummerSnow Dec 2014 #102
"Changing it to "All Lives Matter" makes it meaningless." NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #104
I've used both on Twitter myself.... AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #106
That's good to know. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #109
There are a few extremists out there, and they can be LOUD sometimes. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #110
Wow! WTF? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #111
Both statements are true bhikkhu Dec 2014 #112
Black lives matter. Euphoria Dec 2014 #113
Black lives matter. PowerToThePeople Dec 2014 #114
Black Lives MAtter loyalsister Dec 2014 #119
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #128
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #122
"Animal Farm" Cleita Dec 2014 #129
FFS! marym625 Dec 2014 #130
+ 1000 loyalsister Dec 2014 #131
Have to give MIRT credit marym625 Dec 2014 #132
Here you go marym625 Dec 2014 #133
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