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lumberjack_jeff

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34. They're mistaken
Wed Dec 10, 2014, 02:29 PM
Dec 2014

The founding fathers were clear about the source of ultimate authority.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.


http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html

That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?


http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/tree-liberty-quotation

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We. Need. War crime. Trials. Period. [View all] McCamy Taylor Dec 2014 OP
We are either a nation of laws or one of men. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #1
As with everything, it all depends The2ndWheel Dec 2014 #4
This country operates on the consent of the governed. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #13
Always a good theory The2ndWheel Dec 2014 #25
The Supreme Court ruled that it operates on the consent of the wealthy. tclambert Dec 2014 #33
They're mistaken lumberjack_jeff Dec 2014 #34
I want EVERYONE involved tried. Any administration, at all levels Scootaloo Dec 2014 #2
+metoo! 2naSalit Dec 2014 #5
Second. hifiguy Dec 2014 #8
+ another Scuba Dec 2014 #31
Agree (nt) bigwillq Dec 2014 #36
public investigations of ALL of it Amishman Dec 2014 #40
Amen. woo me with science Dec 2014 #42
We. certainly. do. Thanks McCamy. nt Mnemosyne Dec 2014 #3
Like yesterday we need them. I've been waiting a long time for the trials. shraby Dec 2014 #6
K&R Solly Mack Dec 2014 #7
Without trials -- all the blah, blah. blah you're hearing today is just bullshit. n/t nichomachus Dec 2014 #9
I agree. Iggo Dec 2014 #10
I like and respect Chomsky a lot, don't get me wrong. But may I point out that KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #11
Chomsky was correct. Nixon fell from power because he attacked famous Americans. McCamy Taylor Dec 2014 #27
We don't need trials and usless washed and polished investigations . easychoice Dec 2014 #12
Worried about backlash? Why not seize Bush/Cheney and hand them over to Iran for prosecution? ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #20
Absolutely. calimary Dec 2014 #14
Failing that, there's an alternative. . . DinahMoeHum Dec 2014 #15
I am reminded of a Twilight Zone episode louis-t Dec 2014 #16
I get up every day Mira Dec 2014 #17
Excellent OP. TexasTowelie Dec 2014 #18
Yes, we lead by example. n/t WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2014 #22
K and R geardaddy Dec 2014 #19
I couldn't agree more. Cleita Dec 2014 #21
Let's Visualize! JawJaw Dec 2014 #32
In a just world, yes. War crimes tribunals. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #23
+1 Cleita Dec 2014 #24
But what about Jeb? Politicalboi Dec 2014 #26
The Bush Family IS the CIA. McCamy Taylor Dec 2014 #28
It is clear as daylight Aerows Dec 2014 #29
I can see it happening but it will take a few SC decisions and Congressional initiatives ucrdem Dec 2014 #30
We do need them, but..... zentrum Dec 2014 #35
They. Want. The War. Brought. Home. To. Us. truedelphi Dec 2014 #37
citation please ellennelle Dec 2014 #39
boy, i do hear ya ellennelle Dec 2014 #38
kick woo me with science Dec 2014 #41
I would pay to see Cheney on trial. blackspade Dec 2014 #43
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