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freshwest

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18. I don't think of it in terms of subservience, more like terrorized. TARP was the first salvo of how
Wed Dec 17, 2014, 08:53 AM
Dec 2014

monied interests made the case to Washington, D.C. that they could do a Latin American style coup if they weren't protected. That is why, IMO, it happened, not a pay off or toadying, more like a armed robbery. Wall Street was armed with the debt fo the USA, the capital needed to make it work; and they played their Superman games and would have lost their shirts in the era before Reagan.

But what's the use of being Rand's Superman without being free of regulation and laws that only apply to those lesser than the Masters of the Universe?

They had to get their first, or be subservient to the will of the people and the government. So they held up Bush, Jr., the Congress and then Obama. They had the means to bring the nation to its knees and those Democrats who saw the relationship for what it was made Sophie's Choice to save one innocent.

But the Supermen has tasted blood and set about to ruin the Obama presidency anyway they could, but we've all known logically that they hold the sword over our heads. And it appears that people have just tuned out and are going to let them have their way.

Because Wall Street is not just fat cats. It is the pension fund holders of the investment of millions of Americans, as well as the ones who literally pay the bills for Social Security and other government functions. It has existed longer than our current form of government.

It's all been so tightly woven over the years, that those in power don't actually separate it from the needs of the public anymore. But now it's been infected with virulent greed as suceeding generations fell under the spell of Randian economics and voted in those who would do their will.

Which is so close in its end game to the plantation and colonial systems, that people dare not look it for what it really is. Instead, they fantasize about having simpler lives that they still do not control. The heart of commerce has been gutted. The true boot in the face is one that which cannot be removed from office and does not need to respond to the public will or need, even less than feudal lords did.

JMHO.

Anyone who believes "Obama is a Republican" is not competent to fight Wall Street. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #1
Yet, Obama surrounds himself with corporate tools rather than public servants... polichick Dec 2014 #3
Elizabeth Warren is only a Senator because she was an Obama advisor. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #4
And yet Obama chose someone else to run the agency she pushed for. polichick Dec 2014 #5
You mean the Senate wouldn't accept her. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #6
Obama is a friend of Wall Street through and through - wake up! polichick Dec 2014 #9
YOU are a friend of Wall Street through and through. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #10
You really told her TBF Dec 2014 #14
I told the truth. If that's not good enough for you, find another party. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #24
lol - I've seen your TBF Dec 2014 #29
+1 freshwest Dec 2014 #8
/\ This /\ Scuba Dec 2014 #11
And, of course, that's the something a "sellout" would say. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #13
Yeah, he sold out those of us who worked to get him elected. Scuba Dec 2014 #15
Ugh. I don't know what planet such a view comes from. It isn't Earth. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #16
Geithner, Summers, lunch with Jamie Dimon and his White House cufflinks ... Scuba Dec 2014 #22
Buzzwords, buzzwords, buzzwords. Git yer buzzwords here! True Blue Door Dec 2014 #23
Buzzwords? No, facts. Scuba Dec 2014 #25
Obama is on our side. If that's controversial to you, you are not capable of working with anyone. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #26
Evidence? I'd love it to be true. Scuba Dec 2014 #27
If he i son "your" side Old Codger Dec 2014 #42
Not usefull?...no it is the problem. zeemike Dec 2014 #39
You've got nothing. Marr Dec 2014 #52
Why does an insane Thespian2 Dec 2014 #44
Are you actually saying... ReRe Dec 2014 #32
What they are saying is clap louder Mnpaul Dec 2014 #35
Me too... n/t ReRe Dec 2014 #40
The president himself said he's a republican Doctor_J Dec 2014 #60
And yet - there are those who say hey, the Dems need to give in to Wall Street so they can get djean111 Dec 2014 #2
When it comes to $$$$$'s, today, R=D=I, but most don't want to hear that, so the holders RKP5637 Dec 2014 #7
But, it's ok, because they support some liberal social policies HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #17
Which don't cost them money. Amazing, isn't it, how many Democrats have willingly djean111 Dec 2014 #21
Best post I've read this month!! beerandjesus Dec 2014 #30
I've had enough of their games. They are users and abusers who will say and do anything NightOwwl Dec 2014 #37
Hmmm. Seems to me that including LGBT couples in the right to pass Social Security benefits on Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #38
Social Security is not Wall Street money. zeemike Dec 2014 #41
You hit that so hard it went into orbit. hifiguy Dec 2014 #56
This:The thought of a Clinton-Bush rematch makes me want to retch, and then move out of the country. CrispyQ Dec 2014 #54
The DLC / Third Way / CorpoDems who took over the party leadership have abandoned the rank-and-file. Scuba Dec 2014 #12
Good, let trustees go door to door Mnpaul Dec 2014 #36
I don't think of it in terms of subservience, more like terrorized. TARP was the first salvo of how freshwest Dec 2014 #18
Very insightful post, thanks! beerandjesus Dec 2014 #31
"It is the pension fund holders" Mnpaul Dec 2014 #48
Only if they can get it through the inevitable lawsuits. There is a mixed record. Use of the PBGC freshwest Dec 2014 #61
Great post Mnpaul Dec 2014 #63
Well said and very insightful. hifiguy Dec 2014 #57
Truth articulated well. I plan to no longer be marginalized. mmonk Dec 2014 #19
+1 nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #20
K&R deutsey Dec 2014 #28
Democrat Third Way's fight ag Eliz Warren was used by Cotton(R Ark) in senate race he won. RiverLover Dec 2014 #33
uh oh. I love the smell of inconvenient truth in the morning Doctor_J Dec 2014 #34
“Day and night we are watching over your welfare. Oilwellian Dec 2014 #43
K&R marmar Dec 2014 #45
The Electorate May Suffer fredamae Dec 2014 #46
More likely suffering from....... Mnpaul Dec 2014 #49
Or, in this scenario fredamae Dec 2014 #50
What is Wall Street? librechik Dec 2014 #47
Dream Scenario daredtowork Dec 2014 #51
I think I read she has $12 million already. And unfortunately, she's not the giving kind. nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #58
Obama is like a moderate Republican to the right of Richard Nixon on some issues. pa28 Dec 2014 #53
And corporate solutions to all problems Doctor_J Dec 2014 #59
Change our lives aspirant Dec 2014 #55
DestroyING? More like destroyed and pissed on long ago. PeteSelman Dec 2014 #62
Obama himself confirmed that, ... he’s a moderate Republican progressoid Dec 2014 #64
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