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In the discussion thread: Charlie Hebdo suspect said Abu Ghraib torture pics drove him to enlist in Jihad against USA in 2008 [View all]

Response to Octafish (Reply #110)

Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:44 PM

zappaman (20,587 posts)

112. yes it IS true.

or are you saying you agree or like this article?

THIS is why I say your source sucks...

"Men who have reportedly had sexual relations with Barack Obama
§ Donald Young, TUCC Choir director
§ Larry Sinclair, gay escort
§ Reggie Love, White House presidential assistant and Obama’s “body man”
§ Artur Davis, US Representative from Alabama and gubernatorial candidate
§ Bill Frist, former GOP Senate Majority Leader
§ Deval Patrick, Governor of Massachusetts
The Clear and Present Blackmail Threat"

http://rense.com/general95/onemanuel.html

Plenty of more vomit at the link if anyone has the stomach to see the guy you are promoting here.

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Charlie Hebdo suspect said Abu Ghraib torture pics drove him to enlist in Jihad against USA in 2008 [View all]	Octafish	Jan 2015	OP
Just imagine	nichomachus	Jan 2015	#1
Well we didn't go nuclear, but we did use White Phospherous in Fallujah and	sabrina 1	Jan 2015	#27
Depleted Uranium ammo used all over Iraq...	Octafish	Jan 2015	#105
Our heavy handed use of DU	JEB	Jan 2015	#130
I disagree	QuestionableC	Jan 2015	#36
Nowadays we drone.	ananda	Jan 2015	#43
Wasn't out mass killing spree in Falluja a direct response to that very thing?	Bandit	Jan 2015	#78
And we believe mass murderers now? Look...some people just like to kill, and like to find	msanthrope	Jan 2015	#2
That is more like it.	still_one	Jan 2015	#4
You're right	trumad	Jan 2015	#5
Thank you--think these psychos gave a shit about a single 9/11 victim? nt	msanthrope	Jan 2015	#10
Like the US leadership gives a rats ass about the millions of civilians they've killed either.	NewDeal_Dem	Jan 2015	#117
They hate us for our freeeeedumbs!!!!!!!!	Hassin Bin Sober	Jan 2015	#101
It's what he said in court.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#6
Well, shit.....people never lie in court, or come up with excuses for their anti-social behavior! nt	msanthrope	Jan 2015	#12
I thought it was insight to his mind.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#25
Agreed. Like how Dennis MILLER and his ilk claim they turned wingnut over 9-11. n/t	UTUSN	Jan 2015	#7
Yeah---9/11 changed them!! No...9/11 just gave them a good cover story. nt	msanthrope	Jan 2015	#15
Atrocities breed atrocities breed atrocities...	bhikkhu	Jan 2015	#205
like this guy.	NewDeal_Dem	Jan 2015	#21
Damn he looks like Ted Bundy in that picture!!! nt	msanthrope	Jan 2015	#24
...	NewDeal_Dem	Jan 2015	#28
Wow! I guess I wasn't the only one who thought that! nt	msanthrope	Jan 2015	#32
I have a photo of the two, caption is "Separated at birth?"	louis-t	Jan 2015	#63
LOL.	JaneyVee	Jan 2015	#48
Perfect	malaise	Jan 2015	#53
Time for the "Bush & Bundy Show!"	KansDem	Jan 2015	#57
which man killed more?	pansypoo53219	Jan 2015	#67
Shit howdy W looks much like Ted Bundy	Long Drive	Jan 2015	#31
Close your eyes and listen the Charlie Manson	dead_head	Jan 2015	#64
Looks like he could use a Depleted Uranium enema.	JEB	Jan 2015	#131
from your lips to god's ears...	NewDeal_Dem	Jan 2015	#132
Try thinking outside the box. Without the invasion of Iraq, we would not	Rex	Jan 2015	#41
Without the invasion of Iraq, those determined to kill would have to find another excuse.	msanthrope	Jan 2015	#44
Hmmm didn't think of that, yeah I can see that as a defense attorney.	Rex	Jan 2015	#59
Jeez--I don't remember that--what did we tussle on? nt	msanthrope	Jan 2015	#71
I swore up and down I knew what hate speech was	Rex	Jan 2015	#72
Oh, shit!!! The DU Lawyer Division showed up? And you survived?	msanthrope	Jan 2015	#76
I know, I think you guys felt sorry for me after a while.	Rex	Jan 2015	#81
So you don't think anyone was motivated by the Abu Ghraib tortures and murders?	riderinthestorm	Jan 2015	#66
I think plenty of people take tragedy and murder and use it as motivator to do the really	msanthrope	Jan 2015	#73
That's fine but the State department has specifically said there's been blowback	riderinthestorm	Jan 2015	#77
Like george bush with 911 you mean? Like our entire government with 911?	NewDeal_Dem	Jan 2015	#118
I think people willing to do this	qazplm	Jan 2015	#212
The comment was made in 2008 to explain why he wanted to become a jihadist	riderinthestorm	Jan 2015	#213
Exactly.	cwydro	Jan 2015	#133
....	840high	Jan 2015	#60
He said this in 2008 @ the American occupation of Iraq	riderinthestorm	Jan 2015	#65
this!	BlancheSplanchnik	Jan 2015	#69
What makes you think he is a mass murderer?	Bandit	Jan 2015	#80
Who are you talking about???? nt	msanthrope	Jan 2015	#82
Just a guess	GummyBearz	Jan 2015	#86
george w bush made it to iraq though, with divisions. speaking of mass murderers.	NewDeal_Dem	Jan 2015	#120
No, but intellectually curious people are interested in motive.	DisgustipatedinCA	Jan 2015	#89
More "fruits" of our foreign policy	dissentient	Jan 2015	#3
Blowback.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#8
I believe it, it seems very plausible	dissentient	Jan 2015	#14
As do I. Do I need to post that?	Octafish	Jan 2015	#18
Not at all. I was just making what I thought clear.	dissentient	Jan 2015	#19
Why yes, you do--over and over again, in fact!	MADem	Jan 2015	#34
+1. n/t	Jefferson23	Jan 2015	#46
Right. It's called blowback.	brush	Jan 2015	#39
I'm in full agreement with your post. (And with this OP in general as well)	dissentient	Jan 2015	#40
agree...."Blowback."	KoKo	Jan 2015	#51
So...kill some Parisians. Makes sense.	randome	Jan 2015	#9
I totally see how you could mistake French cartoonists for US Army reserves. nt	msanthrope	Jan 2015	#13
Especially with the way that the French were so gung-ho to join the war	cemaphonic	Jan 2015	#114
There have been so many recruitment ads paid by us	TexasProgresive	Jan 2015	#11
I've always believed that those Abu Ghraib photos were intended to be "leaked"	arcane1	Jan 2015	#17
+100 There are more things, horatio....	NewDeal_Dem	Jan 2015	#26
Profound	malaise	Jan 2015	#30
"starting with April Glaspie" -- actually, I think you need to go back a bit farther in time, at	KingCharlemagne	Jan 2015	#38
KingCharlemagne	Diclotican	Jan 2015	#47
How to I "LOVE" this post?	lebkuchen	Jan 2015	#56
Thanks (I think). I'm not sure there's any way to 'love' a specific post the way	KingCharlemagne	Jan 2015	#58
How about the 'Safari Club' that drove CIA around Jimmy Carter?	Octafish	Jan 2015	#74
We could push the starting point back to 1953 when the CIA and FDR's grandson	KingCharlemagne	Jan 2015	#83
Absolutely. It was in Reader's Digest.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#93
prescott's dad sam: war industries board WWI, rockefeller/harriman associate,	NewDeal_Dem	Jan 2015	#128
He was Kermit Roosevelt, Jr., Teddy Roosevelt's grandson	sketchy	Jan 2015	#199
Wipes egg off face! Encroaching senility, not a pleasant	KingCharlemagne	Jan 2015	#223
me too	reddread	Jan 2015	#16
When Truth Tried to Stop War (Ray McGovern)	Octafish	Jan 2015	#20
Recommend Read......	KoKo	Jan 2015	#50
They don't need an excuse to kill	B2G	Jan 2015	#22
Killing Hope	Octafish	Jan 2015	#33
Blowback.	AzDar	Jan 2015	#23
We need a world media run by people who understand Mahatma Gandhi.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#103
Because you see only 'we the civilized can torture people'	malaise	Jan 2015	#29
Remember to Think, Despite the Blood	Octafish	Jan 2015	#145
The issue here is not to excuse, but to comprehend	malaise	Jan 2015	#146
Gandhi. H2O Man got me reading Gandhi.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#149
I've long been of the view that it takes a special kind of insecure	malaise	Jan 2015	#157
That's why it bothers me when someone bothers you.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#161
Thanks Octafish	malaise	Jan 2015	#166
Heartbreaking. Mass murder in service of mineral wealth.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#173
Got lost on his way to USA. n/t	Orsino	Jan 2015	#35
Just think if the BFEE would have stuck to the Afghanistan war and left Iraq alone.	Rex	Jan 2015	#37
Does anyone bring up the CONNECTIONS between the House of Bush and House of Bin Laden anymore?	Octafish	Jan 2015	#42
What is more, why do progressives get mad when we mention the ties	Rex	Jan 2015	#49
I suspect they are defending the status quo, meaning the Military Industrial Complex.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#96
Progressives	malaise	Jan 2015	#169
I figured I would be nice in 2015.	Rex	Jan 2015	#174
Too nice	malaise	Jan 2015	#176
Why do alleged progressives think that right wing homophobes, anti-Semites and racists are credible?	SidDithers	Jan 2015	#171
Why do alleged progressives laugh about the BFEE and try to pretend it doesn't exist?	Rex	Jan 2015	#172
You're just going to ignore the promotion of blatant homophobe shitbag Wayne Madsen?...	SidDithers	Jan 2015	#180
Beside giving your word, you have failed to show where he is any of those things.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#183
Do your own fucking research...	SidDithers	Jan 2015	#184
You've said that a lot over the years, too, siddithers of DU.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#186
Nice to see someone else has noticed.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#188
Blah blah Denmark?	Rex	Jan 2015	#221
Of course you do, you hate Octa that is not anything that is a surprise to anyone	Rex	Jan 2015	#218
That's a "yes", then?...	SidDithers	Jan 2015	#220
I wouldn't do it after what I read in your link.	Rex	Jan 2015	#222
I wouldn't promote Wayne Madsen at DU either.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#224
Wayne fucking Madsen...	SidDithers	Jan 2015	#75
Wow!	Rex	Jan 2015	#84
On Thu Jan 8, 2015, 12:27 PM an alert was sent on the following post:	Vincardog	Jan 2015	#90
Thanks for posting the results...	SidDithers	Jan 2015	#91
Thanks for speaking truth to BS	Vincardog	Jan 2015	#92
So the Bush family and bin Laden family weren't in business together?	Octafish	Jan 2015	#94
Interesting, that same asshole was instrumental if fucking up the BOG when it first started	Rex	Jan 2015	#98
WOW.	polly7	Jan 2015	#99
The source was ''In These Times.'' You really don't contribute a thing, do you, SidDithers?	Octafish	Jan 2015	#95
Do you agree with Wayne Madsen that Obama is gay?	zappaman	Jan 2015	#106
Don't know. Don't care.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#109
Yeah, he's not, but why would Wayne smear him like that?	zappaman	Jan 2015	#111
Why am I not shocked???	zappaman	Jan 2015	#104
Because you have an agenda? What do you think about Bush, Bin Laden and HARKEN?	Octafish	Jan 2015	#107
No. I was not shocked because you never give a shit how loony or disgusting your source is.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#108
That's not true.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#110
yes it IS true.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#112
Vomit all you want. It doesn't change the OP or my posts.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#125
Why would you link to a deranged, homophobic, anti-Semite?	zappaman	Jan 2015	#126
Foreign Policy.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#134
Wayne Madsen is a homophobic, anti-Semite who writes for a Holocaust denial site.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#136
Not as far as I know.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#139
No, I don't know why you link to articles by homophobic, anti-Semites.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#141
Why do you call ''In These Times'' a ''Holocaust denial site,'' zappaman?	Octafish	Jan 2015	#143
He writes for Rense as well, Octafish of DU.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#147
Is that the same rense your Tag Team buddy SidDithers of DU quoted in post 75?	Octafish	Jan 2015	#148
Why are you deflecting from your support of a writer who is a homophobic, anti-semite?	zappaman	Jan 2015	#150
You are acting desperate, zappaman. As the facts aren't on your side, understandable.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#154
The fact is Wayne Madsen is a homophobic, anti-Semite.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#155
Ties Between the Bush Family and Osama bin Laden	Octafish	Jan 2015	#160
Holocaust deniers are turds, wouldn't you agree? n/t	zappaman	Jan 2015	#185
Please explain how Madsen's been "smeared".	tammywammy	Jan 2015	#164
Because what you and they have written is not true.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#168
I know you know how to google:	tammywammy	Jan 2015	#177
Good info!	zappaman	Jan 2015	#192
Not sure why you would defend a homophobic, anti-Semite.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#187
Smearing is your speciality. That guy seems like a friend of Karl Rove.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#189
So you really are defending this homophobic, anti-Semitic turd?	zappaman	Jan 2015	#191
Never. That's why I post on the BFEE and the crimes of the national security state.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#193
So why are you defending Wayne Madsen?	zappaman	Jan 2015	#194
Overlook your bullshit, you mean.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#195
I have no idea why you promote homophobic, anti-Semites	zappaman	Jan 2015	#196
No. Our difference is that I don't give legitimacy to homophobes, racists and anti-Semites...	SidDithers	Jan 2015	#203
Nice smear.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#204
It's the truth, octafish of DU...	SidDithers	Jan 2015	#206
No, that's a smear.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#208
Are you being intentionlly obtuse?...	SidDithers	Jan 2015	#200
You are all over the place, siddithers.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#202
I've never, ever, said rense is OK...	SidDithers	Jan 2015	#209
Nothing disgusting about character assassination, either.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#214
I choose not to use racists and homophobes to support my positions...	SidDithers	Jan 2015	#215
Never-ending war.	polly7	Jan 2015	#217
Thank you so much for this	YoungDemCA	Jan 2015	#158
George Herbert Walker Bush told the FBI he was in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#167
He said this in 2008 when the US was occupying Iraq.	riderinthestorm	Jan 2015	#45
You could wipe out my entire state and I still wouldn't travel to another country and kill people.	randome	Jan 2015	#55
...^ that	840high	Jan 2015	#61
Me neither... I also wouldn't shoot an unarmed black kid,	SomethingFishy	Jan 2015	#68
So all those people joining ISIS are being coerced?	riderinthestorm	Jan 2015	#70
Sure, those hundreds or even thousands of fools out of ten billion.	randome	Jan 2015	#138
So how are these people innocent if they wipe out your entire state?	Rex	Jan 2015	#100
Not a great working definition of innocence, is it?	DisgustipatedinCA	Jan 2015	#102
The folks working at Charlie Hebdo had nothing to do with Abu Ghraib	Kaleva	Jan 2015	#122
And they made easy targets for terrorists who were on the No-Fly List for Years.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#129
Exactly.	randome	Jan 2015	#135
Wow, that has nothing to do with what I posted! But you knew that already.	Rex	Jan 2015	#175
thanks, US Army	mwrguy	Jan 2015	#52
thanks, GWB	lebkuchen	Jan 2015	#54
Thank you CIA, all you NAZIs thereabouts, and your puppet, George W Bush.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#97
So it isn't Obama's fault?	louis-t	Jan 2015	#62
Who can say?	Octafish	Jan 2015	#113
I believe that	ann---	Jan 2015	#79
The images are a record of evil perpetuated for profit.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#144
Way to go pnac!	Dont call me Shirley	Jan 2015	#85
BINGO!	Octafish	Jan 2015	#121
So the years of the little bush were a massive give-away to the...	Dont call me Shirley	Jan 2015	#181
And here we get into something very interesting	CJCRANE	Jan 2015	#87
We the People are Public Enemy Number 1.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#116
Spin alert! It wasn't the pics, it was the torture.	Scuba	Jan 2015	#88
Fundamentally, the Golden Rule isn't 'He who controls the gold rules.'	Octafish	Jan 2015	#115
Wayne Madsen is a dangerous, homophobic, deluded, anti-Semite.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#119
At one point I thought the OP was simply oblivious to the fact...	SidDithers	Jan 2015	#123
If it was me, I would have self deleted when shown I was using turds as sources.	zappaman	Jan 2015	#124
The poster in question is (in)famous for this kind of thing	YoungDemCA	Jan 2015	#159
That's not true and you know it, YoungDemCA.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#162
...	napkinz	Jan 2015	#127
I had been against cruel and unusual punishment until 2003.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#151
"All right. You've covered your ass now."	napkinz	Jan 2015	#165
Sure it did	cwydro	Jan 2015	#137
My personal guess is MK/ULTRA with a hint of ARTICHOKE.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#153
they should have let him go to Iraq and stay there.	Sunlei	Jan 2015	#140
Well, there's always Gitmo.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#142
Sure.	Turbineguy	Jan 2015	#152
We have been stuck in Bushdiditstan since Poppy Bush grew global terrorism	blm	Jan 2015	#156
Poppy Bush was Vice President Waiting-in-the-Wings just waiting and waiting.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#170
I've run into a number of busted links on this subject - we used to post them	blm	Jan 2015	#178
It's the price of doing journalism.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#179
Everything is unfolding like a huge drama	CJCRANE	Jan 2015	#182
That certainly explains murdering French cartoonists.	WinkyDink	Jan 2015	#163
I never knew the staff at Charlie Hebdo worked at Abut Ghraib... N.T.	Donald Ian Rankin	Jan 2015	#190
Poor sociopath needs a map of the world. He's got the 2 sides of the Atlantic ocean mixed up	Pooka Fey	Jan 2015	#197
Couldn't if they wanted to as both were on US No-Fly List ''for Years.''	Octafish	Jan 2015	#198
So the "no-fly" list actually serves a purpose,	Pooka Fey	Jan 2015	#201
We have and still are the driving force behind their recruitment efforts in the ME. We are still	jwirr	Jan 2015	#207
Quite profitably.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#210
Yes, out corporations and their stockholders are making bundles off of endless war and they finally	jwirr	Jan 2015	#211
In 2009, Gen. Jones reported Al Qaeda was down to less than 100 members in Afghanistan.	Octafish	Jan 2015	#216
Bugsplat, signature strikes, double-tapping of family members and rescuers,	polly7	Jan 2015	#219

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