Joe Sacco. That needs to be an Original Post, KittyWampus. Thank you. (Reply #49)

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49. Joe Sacco. That needs to be an Original Post, KittyWampus. Thank you.

In fact when we draw a line, we are often crossing one too. Because lines on paper are a weapon, and satire is meant to cut to the bone. But whose bone? What exactly is the target?

And why?”

~snip~

And what is it about Muslims in this time and place that makes them unable to laugh off a mere image. And if we answer, "Because something is deeply wrong with them" -certainly something that was deeply wrong with the killers- then let us drive them from their homes and into the sea...

For that is going to be far easier than sorting out how we fit in each other's world.

http://yournz.org/2015/01/10/satirical-cartoons-where-should-the-line-be-drawn/

Wow!

Can we please do the hard work of sorting out how we fit in each other's world and stop with the childish attacks?

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81 replies	Author	Time	Post
But nothing. [View all]	Warren Stupidity	Jan 2015	OP
Qualifying it how?	HappyMe	Jan 2015	#1
I'll put you in the "but" category.	Warren Stupidity	Jan 2015	#4
I'll put you in that category too.	HappyMe	Jan 2015	#6
Satire. Brutal all out satire.	Warren Stupidity	Jan 2015	#10
Yeah, that will stop terrorists.	HappyMe	Jan 2015	#11
Capitulation won't stop them, it rewards them. That which is rewarded is repeated.	Nuclear Unicorn	Jan 2015	#65
When Christian and Jewish religious figures are satired,	christx30	Jan 2015	#68
There are generally 2 types of satire. Satire targeting the power structure w/intent to challenge	KittyWampus	Jan 2015	#34
There are just too many "but" heads in the world. nt	Nuclear Unicorn	Jan 2015	#58
Uh - no	leftynyc	Jan 2015	#5
Rather asinine of the OP to dump me in the "but" category then.	HappyMe	Jan 2015	#9
I don't seen your name in the OP	leftynyc	Jan 2015	#13
See post 4 n/t	arcane1	Jan 2015	#15
Ah - I see now	leftynyc	Jan 2015	#17
Read your first post.	Curmudgeoness	Jan 2015	#57
I did that on purpose to show that one can use "but" without condoning murder.	arcane1	Jan 2015	#62
Cute	leftynyc	Jan 2015	#75
It is horrible, but I can also understand why they were angry over those cartoons.	arcane1	Jan 2015	#14
Can you understand why Republicans are angry over calling Bush a chimp?	oberliner	Jan 2015	#33
Of course. It's quite obvious, actually.	arcane1	Jan 2015	#64
So if a cartoonist who made such a comparison was shot and killed by a Bush fanatic...	oberliner	Jan 2015	#70
When someone commits murder, their motive is often talked about and discussed.	arcane1	Jan 2015	#71
Spare me	leftynyc	Jan 2015	#78
Why would you need to qualify it when the Muslim people themselves are not	randys1	Jan 2015	#26
That's an excellent point	leftynyc	Jan 2015	#76
So when someone posts anti-semitic diatribes inciting violence and provoking anti-semitism	KittyWampus	Jan 2015	#35
Here? Or on their own dime?	Warren Stupidity	Jan 2015	#50
That happens all the time	leftynyc	Jan 2015	#77
There is no excuse for the violence period.	List left	Jan 2015	#51
I agree with you, HappyMe, and I stand in defense of your right to express that measured response.	NYC_SKP	Jan 2015	#7
"There's a lot of hate going" yes indeed there is.	Warren Stupidity	Jan 2015	#8
I have never hated all over the victims.	HappyMe	Jan 2015	#12
Umm, he wasn't talking to you	tkmorris	Jan 2015	#20
I haven't read every thread on this.	HappyMe	Jan 2015	#23
Your first post on this thread included a "but"	Fumesucker	Jan 2015	#61
Not talking to you. Read again.	840high	Jan 2015	#60
This message was self-deleted by its author	uppityperson	Jan 2015	#28
Mass slaughter is never, ever, justified, it's kind of built into the word "slaughter".	NYC_SKP	Jan 2015	#2
How many innocent people were murdered yesterday?	Warren Stupidity	Jan 2015	#3
How many of the people slaughtered yesterday made a vocation of penning provocative comics?	KittyWampus	Jan 2015	#37
al qaeda agrees with you.	Warren Stupidity	Jan 2015	#41
I blamed no victims and your disgusting assertion speaks to a limited capacity to go outside your	KittyWampus	Jan 2015	#42
You declared the victims guilty of provocation.	Warren Stupidity	Jan 2015	#47
Satirists aren't "guilty" of provocation… THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT SATIRE IS.	KittyWampus	Jan 2015	#53
sat·ire - noun	cherokeeprogressive	Jan 2015	#74
that sometimes depends on the slaughter	hfojvt	Jan 2015	#19
Slaughters that prevent future or further slaughters, I suppose, might be exceptions.	NYC_SKP	Jan 2015	#25
not sure if I would blame the aeroplane	hfojvt	Jan 2015	#32
Fair enough. The humanity or inhumanity of participants in war exists regardless of the technology.	NYC_SKP	Jan 2015	#36
Ok.	R3druM	Jan 2015	#24
It hardly matters, R3druM. Twelve lives were lost, wasted, over religious intolerance.	NYC_SKP	Jan 2015	#27
It does matter...	R3druM	Jan 2015	#38
I didn't know them, I didn't know these people.	NYC_SKP	Jan 2015	#44
Well	R3druM	Jan 2015	#48
What do you think?	NYC_SKP	Jan 2015	#54
"part of an attempted genocide"	Quasimodem	Jan 2015	#59
so basically	hfojvt	Jan 2015	#16
Is it really so hard to state a	leftynyc	Jan 2015	#18
it is for a two handed economist	hfojvt	Jan 2015	#29
Wrong. Hillary said it before Bush did, and Mussolini and Orwell and Lenin before that.	NYC_SKP	Jan 2015	#30
There is no "us" to be for or against.	Warren Stupidity	Jan 2015	#43
Look Warren. Innocent people were killed in that attack.	NYC_SKP	Jan 2015	#55
Innocent people?	LostOne4Ever	Jan 2015	#73
It ain't going to happen.	Warren Stupidity	Jan 2015	#79
Only the dogmatic are capable holding one idea at a time.	LanternWaste	Jan 2015	#21
Exactly. I don't like this "only one thought per topic" rule.	arcane1	Jan 2015	#31
Translation: I'm more liberal than you.	FSogol	Jan 2015	#22
Thank you, FSogol, for calling out the truth.	NYC_SKP	Jan 2015	#39
No the liberals here are all tripping over their tiny appendages trying to avoid	Warren Stupidity	Jan 2015	#80
Translation: Everything is in simple in my black and white world (+ a lame insult).	FSogol	Jan 2015	#81
Here is a very provocative comic. It's challenging and uncomfortable. But it's penetrated	KittyWampus	Jan 2015	#40
Joe Sacco. That needs to be an Original Post, KittyWampus. Thank you.	NYC_SKP	Jan 2015	#49
Wow, the point made by this cartoon hits home with me...	Spazito	Jan 2015	#56
A friggin' masterpiece. Should be its own thread and go viral. Jonathan Swift's	KingCharlemagne	Jan 2015	#67
"if binary thinking got us into this mess, binary thinking can get us out of this mess!"	MisterP	Jan 2015	#45
!	annabanana	Jan 2015	#69
I don't think proviokes and warranted mean the same thing	Gore1FL	Jan 2015	#46
Qualifying it how?	hrmjustin	Jan 2015	#52
Nobody excuses this slaughter or	sadoldgirl	Jan 2015	#63
Was about to post something similar when I saw your thread	Hutzpa	Jan 2015	#66
Show me ONE post "defending the actions of these cowards"	arcane1	Jan 2015	#72

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