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forest444

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Thu Feb 5, 2015, 08:13 PM

Feb 2015

Plus he was theatrical, English, and blue-blooded - which in the eyes of many (especially right-wingers) is akin to Sainthood.

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The dark side of Winston Churchill’s legacy no one should forget [View all] forest444 Feb 2015 OP

Is there anyone who approaches importance who doesn't have a dark side? TreasonousBastard Feb 2015 #1

I've never heard of a dark side of President Obama philosslayer Feb 2015 #2

Maybe, but not for the lack of trying... TreasonousBastard Feb 2015 #4

I agree with that wholeheartedly madokie Feb 2015 #26

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Welcome to DU! zappaman Feb 2015 #34

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blocked by congress, as you well know uppityperson Feb 2015 #39

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too bad the repubs had enough votes to block most everything, eh? uppityperson Feb 2015 #41

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Too bad that muslim kenyan didn't use his mind control powers and make them do what he wanted? uppityperson Feb 2015 #44

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Wait. Are you saying President Obama used those mind powers to get people to vote against what uppityperson Feb 2015 #47

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OK, so you're not an Obama fan. Terra Alta Feb 2015 #45

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So you like conservatives like Churchill? greatauntoftriplets Feb 2015 #50

would you have been happier with McCain/Palin or Rmoney? Terra Alta Feb 2015 #52

It's worth mentioning because most people really aren't aware of his more sordid legacies. forest444 Feb 2015 #8

Well, there's a dark side, and then there's a Dark Side DerekG Feb 2015 #49

Oh, I agree... TreasonousBastard Feb 2015 #53

I think I get it. Ye who is without sin may cast the first stone. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2015 #3

People are complicated. Brickbat Feb 2015 #5

And he smoked cigars. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2015 #6

Yes. And I bet he smoked them during meetings of the War Cabinet. Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #17

Lol, cwydro Feb 2015 #38

He was a conservative. What do you expect? denverbill Feb 2015 #7

Gallipoli tenderfoot Feb 2015 #9

And I wonder how many millions Snooty Dave will blow on the "commemoration" this time. forest444 Feb 2015 #10

Yep. Only because was the grandson of the Duke of Marlborough LittleBlue Feb 2015 #54

not suprised, im glad to see theese important facts gaining visibility. TimeToEvolve Feb 2015 #11

YES. Remember all those countries Churchill invaded when he returned to power in 1951? Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #16

Egypt and Kenya certainly did forest444 Feb 2015 #27

Not that much different in those respects to his near-contemporary Teddy Roosevelt Spider Jerusalem Feb 2015 #12

Both had dark sides; but with a difference: forest444 Feb 2015 #18

And Mussolini made the trains run on time. Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #20

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We should pretty much dig up all of those folks, put them on trial, and hang their corpses (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #19

Lots of admired persons from history have sordid pasts. Margaret Sanger of PP, anyone? ARMYofONE Feb 2015 #13

George Washington was a racist slaveholder. Jefferson was a racist slaveholder who raped his slaves. Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #14

Mother Theresa actually was awful. smirkymonkey Feb 2015 #30

one of the ways they would justify taking over other nations JI7 Feb 2015 #15

He's high on the list of the worst monsters of the 20th Century cpwm17 Feb 2015 #21

+1 forest444 Feb 2015 #22

Thread winner malaise Feb 2015 #24

Truth, as Churchill himself once admitted, forest444 Feb 2015 #25

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Churchill one of the worst monsters of the 20th century? cwydro Feb 2015 #42

He was an arsehole. sibelian Feb 2015 #23

He hurt a lot of good people with the Gold Standard in the 1920s, and it probably didn't bother him forest444 Feb 2015 #31

Great men are almost always bad men. Lord Acton Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #28

You left out the context: forest444 Feb 2015 #29

Complications of a simple point in time seveneyes Feb 2015 #32