+100000 Bernie is the only potential candidate telling the truth about oligarchy. (Reply #34)

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Sun Feb 15, 2015, 06:18 PM

34. +100000 Bernie is the only potential candidate telling the truth about oligarchy.

That is why I believe the PTB would stop at nothing, and I mean nothing, to marginalize and if necessary end his candidacy.

Elizabeth Warren's message on economics is important and welcome. But even her policy agenda does not clearly challenge the wars and the surveillance/police state that are dismantling democracy in this nation.

We don't just need to be more economically comfortable within an authoritarian state. We need restoration of our democracy and our Bill of Rights.

We need reform of our elections. We need restoration of our civil liberties. We need an end to the surveillance state and the militarization of our police forces, and the private prison industry, and the endless wars for profit.

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133 replies	Author	Time	Post
The question is not 'would I support Hillary'? [View all]	daleanime	Feb 2015	OP
That's not the question.	Buzz Clik	Feb 2015	#1
Some how not surprised....	daleanime	Feb 2015	#3
That doesn't make sense either. You have NO idea...	Buzz Clik	Feb 2015	#5
Yes, I have no idea where you stand on Hillary....	daleanime	Feb 2015	#20
You're right on target: the answer for most of us common folk is "no"; "yes" if you're a major corporation...	InAbLuEsTaTe	Feb 2015	#89
For me, the most important thing is that I think Hillary would at least maintain the	Cal33	Feb 2015	#123
Sadly, you're prolly right.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Feb 2015	#125
I think we have, at most, an illusion of democracy and more and more of us	merrily	Feb 2015	#126
No surprise there.	Katashi_itto	Feb 2015	#4
Ok, then answer this:	Buzz Clik	Feb 2015	#8
Well that's your problem isn't it?	Katashi_itto	Feb 2015	#15
Ok. So all you're doing is trolling for reactions.	Buzz Clik	Feb 2015	#18
Not particularly, you made the lame comment.	Katashi_itto	Feb 2015	#22
You have no room to speak	demwing	Feb 2015	#36
Oh, the irony....	Buzz Clik	Feb 2015	#77
Yep. Exactly what everyone expected	demwing	Feb 2015	#79
yet you continue to participate in the conversation. Stop wasting our time.	Phlem	Feb 2015	#39
You know that there's a g in phlegm, right?	Buzz Clik	Feb 2015	#76
No I didn't know that at all, really?!?!	Phlem	Feb 2015	#81
Wow	billhicks76	Feb 2015	#88
yep.	Phlem	Feb 2015	#103
Poor baby.	Buzz Clik	Feb 2015	#108
nope.	Phlem	Feb 2015	#120
This message was self-deleted by its author	Jack Rabbit	Feb 2015	#46
Why doesn't it make sense?	Jack Rabbit	Feb 2015	#47
The question is: why would you?	InAbLuEsTaTe	Feb 2015	#58
Yes it does. It makes perfect sense, and	PatrickforO	Feb 2015	#82
+1	daleanime	Feb 2015	#90
The US's losing 800,000 jobs to NAFTA began looking good in 2008, when the impact of repealing	merrily	Feb 2015	#127
Hello!!! Yes It Is	billhicks76	Feb 2015	#87
You mean "It doesn't even make sense" to me. In other words, you don't get it.	rhett o rick	Feb 2015	#98
Meaning: you've joined the groupthink and antiHillary is perfectly logical...	Buzz Clik	Feb 2015	#106
I decided quite on my own in 2002 that HRC couldn't be trusted. She betrayed us and doesn't	rhett o rick	Feb 2015	#109
I don't disagree at all. BUT...	Buzz Clik	Feb 2015	#110
I decided who would be a strong leader when given a historical opportunity to	sabrina 1	Feb 2015	#118
If HRC was a ship's captain and ran her ship aground killing between five hundred thousand	rhett o rick	Feb 2015	#132
I definitely wouldn't get on another ship if she was the captain.	sabrina 1	Feb 2015	#133
what do the rolled eyes mean?	lild	Feb 2015	#105
One post? You created a nick for THAT?	Buzz Clik	Feb 2015	#107
Wow you really are a peach!	lild	Feb 2015	#131
That's a very good question.....I wonder too.	CaliforniaPeggy	Feb 2015	#2
Hm. Sounds like you literally want her to financially support you.	Buzz Clik	Feb 2015	#10
Nope, that's not what I want.	CaliforniaPeggy	Feb 2015	#14
+1	Jack Rabbit	Feb 2015	#49
+1	Enthusiast	Feb 2015	#60
Exactly	ybbor	Feb 2015	#64
I'm with you. Hillary is a .1 percenter, who's not interested in the issues I care about - only in lining her own greedy pockets.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Feb 2015	#91
YES.	bvar22	Feb 2015	#23
Thanks for that. Easy to see why Obama beat her in 2008.	rgbecker	Feb 2015	#45
That question answers itself. We need someone who will stand with those of us on mainstreet, not Wallstreet.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Feb 2015	#92
That little exchange tells me all I need to know about Hillary Clinton and her candidacy.	Enthusiast	Feb 2015	#63
Thanks for that reminder who Hillary is fighting for, ie, the upper class making six figures...	InAbLuEsTaTe	Feb 2015	#93
When was the cap raised?	merrily	Feb 2015	#128
Actually, it does not sound like that at all	demwing	Feb 2015	#37
OMG. Really!?	Phlem	Feb 2015	#40
are you daft?	LiberalLovinLug	Feb 2015	#61
A big plus one to you.	Enthusiast	Feb 2015	#66
Not at all.	PatrickforO	Feb 2015	#85
I'm a vet.....	daleanime	Feb 2015	#11
I agree that this is what her support of the military actually means.	CaliforniaPeggy	Feb 2015	#16
It depends what your monthly expenses are	still_one	Feb 2015	#6
No. But, she'll say she will. Unless she decides she was "misled" by Bush.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Feb 2015	#7
I believe that very few politicians actually support us.	bigwillq	Feb 2015	#9
Well that makes great sense	quakerboy	Feb 2015	#101
That's a fantastic way to make sure nothing ever changes. (nt)	jeff47	Feb 2015	#104
Well it might be stated, how well would she represent my interests?	HereSince1628	Feb 2015	#12
Writing in wellness.....	daleanime	Feb 2015	#42
I also think it is a valid part of the guestion	olddots	Feb 2015	#13
I understand completely; right there with you. And yes, it is sad.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Feb 2015	#95
I already know the answer to that.	99Forever	Feb 2015	#17
Indeed. And we clearly already have the answer to that question.	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#19
And it's things like this that worry me...	daleanime	Feb 2015	#21
After reading this, how anyone with half a heart can support Hillary is beyond me.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Feb 2015	#97
The real question: will you support the Democratic nominee in the general election against the Rethug?	pnwmom	Feb 2015	#24
And what if they are indistinguishable?	CaliforniaPeggy	Feb 2015	#25
They won't be, anymore than Al Gore was indistinguishable from George Bush.	pnwmom	Feb 2015	#28
Well, I was being facetious.	CaliforniaPeggy	Feb 2015	#30
My state won't be "in play" in 2016.	bvar22	Feb 2015	#26
Maybe, and maybe not.	napi21	Feb 2015	#62
Hillary will lose my state by over 20 points.	bvar22	Feb 2015	#83
No, that's a redirect....	daleanime	Feb 2015	#29
Well, that's certainly the "lesser of two evils" con game	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#31
"that corporatists in both parties keep using on us."	Phlem	Feb 2015	#48
"We need to be alive to enjoy all the rest."	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#75
Aww	Phlem	Feb 2015	#102
This message was self-deleted by its author	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#78
In the general, I'd vote for Hillary in preference to whatever GOP assclown is running...	backscatter712	Feb 2015	#27
I like Bernie....	daleanime	Feb 2015	#32
+100000 Bernie is the only potential candidate telling the truth about oligarchy.	woo me with science	Feb 2015	#34
Amen....	daleanime	Feb 2015	#35
So far, Bernie is the only one I have confidence	Android3.14	Feb 2015	#65
Hillary. Wal Mart Board member (1986-1992) and former "Goldwater Girl."	blkmusclmachine	Feb 2015	#33
Pretty sure the Democratic nominee for president is going to get Rhode Island.	EEO	Feb 2015	#38
10th most Liberal senate voting record.	JaneyVee	Feb 2015	#41
You really know how...	daleanime	Feb 2015	#43
Obama was #9.	JaneyVee	Feb 2015	#51
Wonder where Raygun would place?	daleanime	Feb 2015	#67
Hardcore conservative:	JaneyVee	Feb 2015	#70
I voted for her 5 times and felt she supported me.	hrmjustin	Feb 2015	#44
I voted for her "0" times and felt	Phlem	Feb 2015	#52
Well I am sorry you feel that way. i hope eventually she can prove herself to you.	hrmjustin	Feb 2015	#53
She's proven everything to me. She's a corporatist. Not interested	Phlem	Feb 2015	#55
Hillary was out for all our candidates. 2014 was not her fault.	hrmjustin	Feb 2015	#56
Did I say it was her fault?	Phlem	Feb 2015	#57
I think she is the favorite and thst Democrats want to win and see her as a winner.	hrmjustin	Feb 2015	#59
Okee Dokee.	Phlem	Feb 2015	#68
I agree the polls will change but at this point who can beat her in a primary?	hrmjustin	Feb 2015	#69
At this point, who knows?	Phlem	Feb 2015	#71
Well I hope we can all unite behind the nominee.	hrmjustin	Feb 2015	#72
I'm positive whoever that may be, it will happen.	Phlem	Feb 2015	#73
.	hrmjustin	Feb 2015	#74
maybe it's "will enough non-DUers vote for her?"	MisterP	Feb 2015	#50
No, she wouldn't	zentrum	Feb 2015	#54
oh be careful how you phrase that around here......but i do agree with you	dembotoz	Feb 2015	#80
So this is about you? My question is would she support the best interests	totodeinhere	Feb 2015	#84
You know, you're right. What was I thinking?	daleanime	Feb 2015	#94
That's not what I said. We need to work for the best interests of the whole country and not	totodeinhere	Feb 2015	#96
The point is that she wouldn't.	immoderate	Feb 2015	#99
nope! next question?	Man from Pickens	Feb 2015	#86
I am no fan of TPP or Kissinger	JEB	Feb 2015	#100
Well the final question might be, will you vote for her?	Rex	Feb 2015	#111
Kind of skipping a few questions.....	daleanime	Feb 2015	#114
Or jumping out of a plane on fire and exploding.	Rex	Feb 2015	#122
Rand Paul....	daleanime	Feb 2015	#124
Aren't you guys and gals scared of losing the White House or do you think it doesn't matter?/NT	DemocratSinceBirth	Feb 2015	#112
Do you really believe that Hillary is the only Democrat.....	daleanime	Feb 2015	#113
Only one party has held the White House in three consecutive elections in the post WW ll era.	DemocratSinceBirth	Feb 2015	#115
I'm not even remotely convinced that Hillary is the strongest hand.	winter is coming	Feb 2015	#116
I welcome a primary fight	DemocratSinceBirth	Feb 2015	#117
Purity?	daleanime	Feb 2015	#119
I can respect your opinion without sharing it.	DemocratSinceBirth	Feb 2015	#121
And, in 1985, the Party's right wing incorporated as the DLC.	merrily	Feb 2015	#129
I'll vote for ANY Democratic candidate who will appoint liberal judges	aint_no_life_nowhere	Feb 2015	#130

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