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Aerows

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61. I *always* get nervous
Fri Feb 20, 2015, 11:24 PM
Feb 2015

when I get a hard sell on anything. A car, an insurance policy, a house, and a political or current affairs opinion that doesn't make sense.

If I'm pressed to accept something at face value, particularly when I feel that I don't have enough information to see the big picture, I ask questions.

Reluctance to accept the prima fascia when I see problems doesn't make me a stupid proletariat that is being "divisive" "difficult" or "delusional", it means I am not going to be sold a barrel of piss that is gussy-ed up and public relation-ed to high heaven as "fine Scotch".

We've already been down that road as a nation with the fine whiskey of patriotism, WMD, Patriot Act, mission creep, etc., only to find out that piss is all that is in that barrel.

I wonder what would happen if a private citizen did the same and claimed it was for Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #1
governments regularly violate laws and constitution with impunity now bigtree Feb 2015 #2
Yes. And, God help any journalists or whistleblowers who point that out. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #3
Law enforcement on all levels use any means at their disposal. lpbk2713 Feb 2015 #28
It's disgraceful Aerows Feb 2015 #69
They'd be in a SuperMax Aerows Feb 2015 #36
this is one of the biggest Snowden stories yet bigtree Feb 2015 #4
+10000000 Spot-on post. woo me with science Feb 2015 #11
this is an interesting link bigtree Feb 2015 #15
This should be an everyday OP Ramses Feb 2015 #19
It really is woo. Aerows Feb 2015 #29
Orwell is right! lovuian Feb 2015 #5
Exactly. Aerows Feb 2015 #33
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2015 #6
Amen to that Aerows Feb 2015 #62
Isn't that what they're *supposed* to do? Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #7
no bigtree Feb 2015 #8
EO 12333 seems to cover it...Just sayin' Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #9
it's theft; not just the SIM info, but the emails and other communication which led them to it bigtree Feb 2015 #13
Theft is apparantly okay Aerows Feb 2015 #73
So theft is legal Aerows Feb 2015 #34
who here at DU, thinks a cellphone is secure and/or private? ...nt quadrature Feb 2015 #10
more important to this debate bigtree Feb 2015 #14
completely wrong.. the cellphone company can always listen quadrature Feb 2015 #16
Nice evasion of the question. Aerows Feb 2015 #21
any supposed 'privacy', gives a falses sense of security quadrature Feb 2015 #23
LOL! Aerows Feb 2015 #24
kick woo me with science Feb 2015 #12
I really don't want Aerows Feb 2015 #31
This goes hand in hand Aerows Feb 2015 #17
Thats why they will wholeheartedly support Hillary just like Obama Ramses Feb 2015 #20
The evidence is all over the forum. Aerows Feb 2015 #22
Some people must agree with Bush Ramses Feb 2015 #25
Exactly, Ramses Aerows Feb 2015 #27
Does not surprise me in the least Ramses Feb 2015 #18
Theft Aerows Feb 2015 #71
Kick Aerows Feb 2015 #26
K&R! nt riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #30
Rather odd Aerows Feb 2015 #37
kick bigtree Feb 2015 #32
BREAKING: Spy agency in charge of breaking encryption and spying on communications DOES SO! MohRokTah Feb 2015 #35
govt. defenders downplay NSA spying and theft from individuals committing no crime at all bigtree Feb 2015 #39
There is nothing in the documents that says anything about spying on anybody in the US MohRokTah Feb 2015 #40
that's not the point of those with objections bigtree Feb 2015 #41
Are you naive? MohRokTah Feb 2015 #42
there's the ridicule bigtree Feb 2015 #43
There's the naivte MohRokTah Feb 2015 #44
ACLU is naive about taking the President's word bigtree Feb 2015 #45
The world spies on each other MohRokTah Feb 2015 #46
The bottom line bigtree Feb 2015 #47
And that's what's happening. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #48
monitoring of the lawful communications of employees of major international corporations bigtree Feb 2015 #49
And they WERE fair game. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #51
it is government massively engaging in illegal activities bigtree Feb 2015 #52
It is government massively engaging in the same activities EVERY government engages in. eom MohRokTah Feb 2015 #53
That's a classic to quoque argument Fumesucker Feb 2015 #55
You are completely wrong. Vattel Feb 2015 #54
Clearly fair game. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #56
I get it. Your claim is that what Obama said was true Vattel Feb 2015 #58
. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #59
. bigtree Feb 2015 #60
To be fair Egnever Feb 2015 #67
BREAKING: Bank robbers rob banks! Murderers murder! Rapists Rape! Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #70
kick woo me with science Feb 2015 #38
Either everybody is snowed in Aerows Feb 2015 #50
it's a 9-11-like response to the latest terror reporting bigtree Feb 2015 #57
I *always* get nervous Aerows Feb 2015 #61
kick Vattel Feb 2015 #63
Yep, kickity kick kick kick n/t Aerows Feb 2015 #72
Amazing how key information Aerows Feb 2015 #64
Isn't it. woo me with science Feb 2015 #65
They haven't decided on a talking point yet. Vattel Feb 2015 #66
That's why I posted my other thread Aerows Feb 2015 #68
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