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jeff47

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24. Key word being "activist".

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 02:31 PM

Feb 2015

"Activist" liberals are the ones likely to be very involved in politics. They'll always vote.

Where we're failing on the left is in attracting younger voters. Younger GenX and older Millennials trend much more liberal than average. They're also much more likely to not vote. And this isn't typical "youth apathy" - they're not voting at a rate much higher than previous generations.

Why? They don't feel like they have a real choice. Either party gets them to the same place, so why bother voting? Vote R and get to hell in 5 years. Vote D and get to hell in 10. You're still in hell.

Warren-style populism could upset the current situation, and get these people to the polls. Which is why the party is trying very hard to "Howard Dean" Warren - Contain her until she can be either marginalized or controlled.

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Another BRILLIANT strategy in the offings ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 OP

Meanwhile, someone is somewhere with 200 advisors and focus groups. NYC_SKP Feb 2015 #1

Yes, because more information is ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #7

Okayy?? Talking to the American people and educated advisors about what's important is WRONG now??? Number23 Feb 2015 #84

Exactly, NONE of this is new information. Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #32

It is probably some to that, too ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #86

It's the "sales" element that is unsavory Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #101

"It's the 'sales' element that is unsavory"? ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #102

Well it takes a progressive legislature to pass upaloopa Feb 2015 #2

why are there so few progressive legislators? guillaumeb Feb 2015 #5

I think it is because the cost to run a campaign upaloopa Feb 2015 #6

And that is not going to change until we ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #10

Yes but I hope that happens in my lifetime upaloopa Feb 2015 #12

Talk about "whistling up the wind" ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #16

I do what I can. upaloopa Feb 2015 #20

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #40

on point again guillaumeb Feb 2015 #42

good on your part. lead by example guillaumeb Feb 2015 #13

"Is it because so many Democratic/liberla/left side do not bother to vote..."? LondonReign2 Feb 2015 #17

Key word being "activist". jeff47 Feb 2015 #24

We abandoned youth. jeff47 Feb 2015 #29

Exactly! treestar Feb 2015 #65

Tell me ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #8

The DNC is the PROBLEM Cosmic Kitten Feb 2015 #31

K & R. n/t FSogol Feb 2015 #3

Anyone who thinks Obama doesn't care or is a puppet of shadowy forces... randome Feb 2015 #4

Funny that ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #14

You would think so, wouldn't you? But nooooo, only Obama The Weak is singled out. randome Feb 2015 #37

More sleight of hand Android3.14 Feb 2015 #9

The goal ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #11

the "when he could" meme sounds like a GOP talking point guillaumeb Feb 2015 #18

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #39

so it really is all President Obama's fault? guillaumeb Feb 2015 #43

The reference must have missed you ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #51

I did guillaumeb Feb 2015 #58

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #59

better a PPP, guillaumeb Feb 2015 #61

Veto proof? Fumesucker Feb 2015 #41

I have never argued that guillaumeb Feb 2015 #46

What difference does it make if there was or was not a veto proof majority in the Senate? Fumesucker Feb 2015 #48

I think he/she meant ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #53

I did. thanks for the correction. guillaumeb Feb 2015 #67

When? Six years ago Android3.14 Feb 2015 #19

How many times does that (rw-talking point) "majority of both houses" narrative ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #27

It's about the change in behavior Android3.14 Feb 2015 #36

but the majority was not there guillaumeb Feb 2015 #44

Again, it's not about the majority, but the behavior Android3.14 Feb 2015 #57

I agree guillaumeb Feb 2015 #60

Maybe Android3.14 Feb 2015 #64

I would argue that President Obama may have HOPED ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #70

Convicted by a majority Democratic Senate then but not by a Republican one now? Fumesucker Feb 2015 #71

possibly tried in the House, like President Clinton, guillaumeb Feb 2015 #72

Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #74

You are certainly making a strong case for voting Democratic Fumesucker Feb 2015 #76

Okay??n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #77

Exactly.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #78

What point was that? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #79

... Fumesucker Feb 2015 #80

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #81

You ever tried belling the cat? Fumesucker Feb 2015 #87

What is belling a cat ... sound kinky. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #88

You're posting on Discussionist? Fumesucker Feb 2015 #89

No. I don't do Discussionist ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #90

Easier to beat up on liberals, I know.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #91

I don't beat up on liberals ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #92

It's possible to take conservatives and make them non-conservatives.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #93

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #94

I showed you an example and you still don't believe it.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #96

It's not that I don't believe you ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #97

I'm surrounded by conservatives so I have no choice really, either go along or find ways to convince Fumesucker Feb 2015 #98

Ahhh, I remember that story! ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #99

A lot of DUers seem to think that Southerners are naturally conservative.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #100

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #54

Thank you 1strong mcar Feb 2015 #68

Dems had a Filibuster Proof Majority fredamae Feb 2015 #47

And that's when we got the single piece of progressiveish legislatiion. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #55

and as we see now one is not required to push the ideas. Make them fillabuster. Licking their taints TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #66

Well, since Pres Obama is backing progressive legislation now that can't pass the GOP congress, RiverLover Feb 2015 #15

What are you talking about? ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #22

Yes, that's why he whipped authentic but pliable Democrats for the Citigroup Cromnibus to pass RiverLover Feb 2015 #23

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #28

Uh, he *offered* Chained CPI. That's not a conspiracy theory. Marr Feb 2015 #26

In what world would CCPI have gone anywhere? ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #30

Those with ODS will never understand that. zappaman Feb 2015 #34

I wouldn't term it ODS ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #45

Some people want to take credit for President Obama's victories... YoungDemCA Feb 2015 #50

Well, I had someone on DU tell me "Obama won because he's black" zappaman Feb 2015 #52

Creative speculation. The proposal is in black and white on official stationary, TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #62

Goofy fable or not ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #69

Going anywhere is not the question. Where are these proposals going? Where did Bush's privatization TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #85

I really can't believe anyone is still trying to sell the notion that his CCPI offer was Marr Feb 2015 #73

Okay.n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #75

Warren & Cummings are working *with* the Administration BrotherIvan Feb 2015 #21

Risking what? ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #35

Doesn't matter... SidDithers Feb 2015 #25

Well, even sarcastic comments have some truth to them. randys1 Feb 2015 #33

That is an excellent question to ask of the anti-Hillary crowd! randome Feb 2015 #95

So let's vote for the "right" person! 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #38

Preferably one that speaks to the issues that matter... YoungDemCA Feb 2015 #49

Let's hope that the Elizabeth Warren team will really deliver. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #56

Thank you, 1SBM. I give this a kickety kickety pop! Hekate Feb 2015 #63

Kick and Rec.... revmclaren Feb 2015 #82

K&R Jamaal510 Feb 2015 #83