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hughee99

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44. Why would I provide proof that Pitts trip is different from Pelosi's trip?

Wed Mar 11, 2015, 01:20 PM

Mar 2015

I said I opposed EITHER of them unless they were sanctioned by the white house. Why would I provide proof for something I'm not arguing and don't believe?

Based on your arguments, I assume you supported BOTH trips.

As far as Pelosi's mission and the GOP letter, I'd argue that Pelosi's trip is MORE of an intervention in foreign policy than the GOP letter, since Pelosi clearly met with with a foreign leader at a time when the WH was actively trying to diplomatically isolate them, while the GOP published a letter reminding the Iranians of something they already knew. A GOP senator could have simply said the same thing on the Senate floor or on the Sunday morning shows and it would have had the same impact (sending that message to Iran), the fact they chose to do it in "open letter" form is stupid political grandstanding, but has the same net effect on foreign relations.

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To lazy minded media - No, Dem visits to Syria were NOT the same as GOP letter. [View all] blm Mar 2015 OP

My Guess Is The MSM Is Getting Talking Points From The Repugs.... global1 Mar 2015 #1

Exactly. It's different when democrats did it. hughee99 Mar 2015 #2

The Dems who went to Syria weren't attempting to scuttle a ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2015 #3

Bush was attempting to diplomatically hughee99 Mar 2015 #6

Fact-finding missions are common. Fact-finding missions are consistent blm Mar 2015 #10

Ah, the "fact finding" mission to meet with a foreign leader hughee99 Mar 2015 #11

That's the way you want to see it, you're welcome to your view. I disagree blm Mar 2015 #15

The Speaker of the house meeting publicly with a foreign leader that the US hughee99 Mar 2015 #18

A fact-finding mission IS common. She wasn't saying her policy choices would blm Mar 2015 #19

The republicans didn't say their policy choices would supercede the WH either. hughee99 Mar 2015 #21

Your Mission to stroke your own ego while pushing GOP spin is a failure. blm Mar 2015 #23

Horsepoo - Try CONTEXT. It was KNOWN by then that Bush lied to Congress to invade Iraq. blm Mar 2015 #4

Ah, so there's a "lying" exception to this rule hughee99 Mar 2015 #5

Just cause. If GOP has evidence that Obama is lying about the Iran negotiations blm Mar 2015 #8

So there's a "just cause" exception to congress interfering in foreign policy? hughee99 Mar 2015 #12

GOP doesn't fear Obama isn't being honest with them on Iran deal. blm Mar 2015 #13

I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying there's no "he lied to us" exception to this rule. hughee99 Mar 2015 #14

What prompted Dems seeking more answers on the ground in Syria? blm Mar 2015 #16

Does a speaker of the house need to publicly meet with the president of a foreign country to get hughee99 Mar 2015 #17

Why would a congressperson see a NEED to schedule a fact-find mission in Syria? blm Mar 2015 #20

I'm sorry, I just realized I'm having two arguments with the same person... hughee99 Mar 2015 #25

No - I said FACT-FINDING missions are COMMON and this one was proven necessary blm Mar 2015 #27

How about if you make YOUR argument and I'll make mine? hughee99 Mar 2015 #30

Protocol. blm Mar 2015 #31

She didn't need to go to Syria herself at all. There's no information she could have hughee99 Mar 2015 #33

LOL - only to someone who can't back up his GOP talking points. blm Mar 2015 #37

So, about that staffer... hughee99 Mar 2015 #38

Was that your concern when GOP congress went toSyria? blm Mar 2015 #39

I wasn't in favor of Pitts going either unless it was sanctioned by the WH and state department. hughee99 Mar 2015 #41

Not a trap - just keeping it real, apples = apples blm Mar 2015 #42

Why would I provide proof that Pitts trip is different from Pelosi's trip? hughee99 Mar 2015 #44

Doesn't bother me when GOP congress take their fact-finding trips. blm Mar 2015 #45

If people in congress are meeting with foreign leaders hughee99 Mar 2015 #48

I HOPE YOU'RE HAPPY WITH PRESIDENT RUBIO Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #32

Congrats, weakest argument yet. Should have gone with "Because Markets!" hughee99 Mar 2015 #34

PRESIDENT PAUL THANKS YOU Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #35

But that's just because he's mad the president is black. n/t hughee99 Mar 2015 #36

You're right -- no two situations are alike onenote Mar 2015 #7

Knowing that Bush lied us into war and wanted to expand that war into Syria blm Mar 2015 #9

the media is not interested in fairness. not in the least bit. spanone Mar 2015 #22

The media is not interested in accuracy. If it was accurate it would be fair, blm Mar 2015 #24

How about McCain's visit to Syria and his selfie with ISIL. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #26

Exactly! Pelosi was not brokering or trying to disrupt an agreement/treaty underpants Mar 2015 #28

Don't let them get away with the GOP talking points. blm Mar 2015 #29

Two totally different things Sick_of_TP Mar 2015 #40

So true - but, some here are stuck on GOP talking points blm Mar 2015 #43

I love John Stewart, but he kind of appears to be "mailing it in" a little bit, with the bullwinkle428 Mar 2015 #46

Yep - that's a good way to describe it. blm Mar 2015 #47