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mathematic

(1,429 posts)
30. Why should I post links when you're not even reading your own?
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 10:12 AM
Mar 2015

Seriously.

The pollen is expressing BT, an organic insecticide that is intended to kill caterpillars. The article says that monarch caterpillars are among those caterpillars. And where's your concern about all the reckless spraying of BT by organic farmers growing non-gmo crops? And still, the decline in monarch butterflies are not attributed to BT exposure (see below).

The real reasons I haven't posted the link is because 1) the link is real science, 2) it's from an acceptable source, 3) not posting it exposes your ignorance on the subject and lets you commit to an incorrect position so you can't change the goalposts. It's not complicated.

Since I'm no longer interested in this conversation and I actually am interested in getting good information out there, here's the link about the over-wintering population of monarch butterflies in mexico.

The write-up for laymen:
http://www.worldwildlife.org/stories/survey-shows-69-increase-in-area-occupied-by-monarch-butterflies

And the scientific study:
http://assets.worldwildlife.org/publications/768/files/original/REPORT_Monarch_Butterfly_colonies_Winter_2014.pdf?1422378439

If you read the actual paper there are three reasons given for the decline in monarchs. Loss of milkweed habitat, loss of overwintering habitat in mexico, and global warming.



Kickin' Faux pas Mar 2015 #1
That's weird. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #2
shocking! marym625 Mar 2015 #22
Well what can we say. Because science! upaloopa Mar 2015 #3
"Science!!11" You can't disagree with " gmo science" or you're as bad as Climate Change Deniers! Cha Mar 2015 #14
The clown car will be here soon. SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #4
Yeah, studiouly ignoring what poisons in their beloved Big Ag GMO do to our Earth and its Cha Mar 2015 #17
Oh dear, NaturalNews. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #5
Tactic #1: Attack the messenger! sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #6
Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #7
Tactic #2: Launch personal attacks. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #8
you pegged it. they're so predictable. and boring. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #9
No, it just gets tiresome engaging posters NuclearDem Mar 2015 #10
neither of which sabrina did. or omaha steve. so why the rude remarks. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #11
I didn't mention OS anywhere. NuclearDem Mar 2015 #13
I realize you can't reply marym625 Mar 2015 #23
It never changes. I've watched it for over a decade now and 'boring' is putting it mildly. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #12
See, that source does have major issues, but this is about a letter from Congress, here is a link Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #29
Natural news MattBaggins Mar 2015 #15
Mahalo Steve.. our Monarch Butterflies are so important to our Earth.. damn gmo roundup toxic crap.. Cha Mar 2015 #16
I would really like to thank those 52 members of Congress. whomever they are along with Rep Pingree Cha Mar 2015 #18
K&R DeSwiss Mar 2015 #19
It's a shame the majority of people in this Congress say: "We don't need no stinkin' butterflies." Vinca Mar 2015 #20
But of course, we don't get our science from political sources mathematic Mar 2015 #21
Toxic pollen from widely planted, genetically modified corn can kill monarch butterflies Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #24
(Oganic) insecticide BT kills caterpillers in your first link mathematic Mar 2015 #25
Looks like a couple hundred links on this Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #26
Why should I post links when you're not even reading your own? mathematic Mar 2015 #30
Genetically engineered crops are destroying its habitat and disrupting its food chain Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #32
So is it herbicide use, or GMOs that are killing them? Lancero Mar 2015 #27
At the last link... Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #28
Study links Monsanto herbicide to monarch decline- link to a story from The Hill about it and one to Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #31
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