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merrily

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7. Sorry. Our party has decided primaries suck.

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 07:35 PM

Mar 2015

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/katrina-vanden-heuvel-the-2016-debate-this-country-needs/2015/01/19/7bb4ac34-a022-11e4-9f89-561284a573f8_story.html

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/08/11/137550/-Senator-Schumer-no-longer-supports-primaries#

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/chuck-schumer-elizabeth-warren-2016-elections-99869.html

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Jerry-Brown-Hillary-Clinton-primary-unhelpful/2015/03/13/id/630099/

WAPO, as confirmation that Jerry Brown thinks primaries are not a good idea: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gov-jerry-brown-says-2016-democratic-nomination-is-hillary-clintons-if-she-wants/2014/05/28/de3d0e0c-e5cc-11e3-8f90-73e071f3d637_story.html

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/barney-frank-vigorous-primary-challenge-for-clinton-doesn-t-help/17w8apd08

Because elections, even primary elections, should not be about what's best for voters, only what's best for the anointee.

So, we have to bury the old yellow dog Democratic joke:

"But, you said you'd vote for any Democrat, even a yellow dog."

"Not in the primary."

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I'm not supporting any democratic nominees right now [View all] minivan2 Mar 2015 OP

The ones who say they are voting for her LiberalElite Mar 2015 #1

As with TPP, it's far better to remain silent until it's way too late for dissent to matter. merrily Mar 2015 #4

Amen +1 n/t jaysunb Mar 2015 #6

better to discuss it now G_j Mar 2015 #2

Exactly! CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2015 #3

Sorry. Our party has decided primaries suck. merrily Mar 2015 #7

Sigh...rewrite the rules... KoKo Mar 2015 #9

Someone objected to merrily Mar 2015 #10

Do be careful, I got a hide for a legitimate story that happened to be a Fox news link. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #48

Wait, what? Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #49

Thank you for the warning. Much appreciated. merrily Mar 2015 #50

I find the idea of NO primary, unhelpful. bravenak Mar 2015 #11

Me, too. But, it seems it will be either no primary or a dog and pony show primary. merrily Mar 2015 #13

And we will lose. bravenak Mar 2015 #14

That is one of my fears. merrily Mar 2015 #15

I really think we are at a point where they think we have no choice. bravenak Mar 2015 #17

How many times have you and I read on DU that we have no choice? merrily Mar 2015 #18

I know it doesn't matter who I vote for. bravenak Mar 2015 #22

My vote does not even count in local races, though I am glad the Mayor beat the other charter school merrily Mar 2015 #23

I feel the same way. bravenak Mar 2015 #25

Speaking of the revolution, I doubt very much that it was the poor colonist farmer merrily Mar 2015 #37

I was more thinking we'd end up pulling a french revolution type of thing. bravenak Mar 2015 #38

The French Revolution was inspired by ours, except that they merrily Mar 2015 #39

Nice, revealing, Links...thanks....Rewrite the Rules for the Party... KoKo Mar 2015 #12

Push back how? At whom? Why? No one actually believes we want zero voice. merrily Mar 2015 #16

It's coming ...it isn't just USA ....it's voices across the world against EU/World Bank/US Policy KoKo Mar 2015 #19

I hope so, Koko. I hope so. merrily Mar 2015 #21

Well if primaries are not helpful or not needed there is no choice Autumn Mar 2015 #30

They are helpful to, and needed by, Dem voters. merrily Mar 2015 #34

Thanks for compiling the links Dems to Win Mar 2015 #45

Seems that way to me also. merrily Mar 2015 #46

We need a primary. Raine1967 Mar 2015 #24

Yes, and a real primary, not just a feint from a stable mate or stalking horse. merrily Mar 2015 #47

there are none. spanone Mar 2015 #5

The Democratic Party wants none but Hillary. That's been clear to me since at least 2012. merrily Mar 2015 #8

not so clear to me. i'm waiting till something actually happens. spanone Mar 2015 #28

What then, do you make of all the talk from prominent Dems about no challenges to Hillary? merrily Mar 2015 #29

Some are working and supporting Hillary ams some are supporting candidates the GOP hope runs. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #20

LOL! Yet another false attempt to equate the left with the right. merrily Mar 2015 #31

Yes I do wonder why some Democrats are helping the GOP degrade Hillary. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #33

I doubt that, but I'm wondering why Democratic voters don't deserve a real primary. merrily Mar 2015 #35

I have been advocating for a primary. I don't understand why there isn't candidates and their Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #36

It's not about you. Maybe this will help you understand. merrily Mar 2015 #40

Who are you talking about when you say Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #41

" Don't address me and then say it isn't about me." merrily Mar 2015 #42

Oh, yea, now you know. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #43

Um, no. I know and always knew, "you guys" is not a reference to you and only you. merrily Mar 2015 #44

can demographics trump the democrats and the GOP? guillaumeb Mar 2015 #26

As a Hillary supporter, I'm happy to have anyone say they'll vote against her... brooklynite Mar 2015 #27

That talking point was silly from the jump and is totally played out at this point. merrily Mar 2015 #32