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Divernan

(15,480 posts)
46. You put yourself up for president, you ask to be judged!
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 08:59 AM
Mar 2015

As you full well realize from reading my post to which you responded, I did allow for varying situations, such as financial welfare of children and/or the cheated on spouse. Anyone who puts themselves up to run for president realizes they will be judged on their past actions and the values by which they live.

Tell me, hypothetically, if you had a daughter or a sister with HRC's intelligence and superior education(Yale Law degree), and demonstrated ability to make more money than her husband, would you encourage her to stay with a serial adulterous husband who not only repeatedly cheated on her, but then lied to her about it, and set her up to be humiliated on a national and international level?

I wouldn't! The psychological abuse of decades of rejection (You're not enough woman for me, I HAD to find other women) has shaped her personality, just as surely as when a parent psychologically rejects and humiliates their child. She projects out her decades of repressed anger (at the most basic betrayal a woman can experience) onto her husband's sexual victims, her political opponents (her list keeping with the intent of wreaking revenge), and pushing bloodthirsty, but oh-so-profitable military solutions to complex political problems.

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/14401-hillary-clintons-legacy-as-secretary-of-state

Hillary Clinton leaves her position as Secretary of State with a legacy of supporting autocratic regimes and occupation armies, opposing enforcement of international humanitarian law, undermining arms control and defending military solutions to complex political problems(writes Truthout's Stephen Zunes, describing her complicity in the murder of thousands, most notably in Libya and Syria.)

She was appointed to her position following eight years in the US Senate, during which she became an outspoken supporter of the invasion and occupation of Iraq, lied about Iraq's military capabilities to frighten the public into supporting the illegal war, unleashed repeated attacks against the United Nations, opposed restrictions on land mines and cluster bombs, defended war crimes by allied right-wing governments and largely embraced Bush's unilateralist agenda.

“During the Arab Spring, Clinton pushed for stronger US support for pro-Western dictators in Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen and Bahrain, as well as the Moroccan occupation of Western Sahara,” Zunes continues. “She was a major proponent of NATO’s military intervention in Libya’s civil war and has encouraged a more active US role in the Syrian conflict.”

“We came, we saw, he died,” Clinton joked in response to the barbaric murder
of deposed Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi at the hands of the CIA’s cutthroat (and beheading) mercenaries. Her sneering comment should not come as a surprise, however. In October, 2011, she openly called for his assassination. “This is Libya’s moment. This is Libya’s victory. The future belongs to you,” Clinton said during a visit to the embattled country. “Libya’s victory” resulted in the murder of 30,000 Libyans, most innocent men, women, and children.



Hillary has been a long advocate on women's issues. This is something which Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #1
I thought it was 23%? Lancero Mar 2015 #50
Sorry i will correct. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #53
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #2
Why not, they did in large numbers in 2014. Savannahmann Mar 2015 #3
That election had the lowest turnout in 70 years. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #7
Not for Republicans. Savannahmann Mar 2015 #44
I like to post...NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #4
Welcome to DU... SidDithers Mar 2015 #11
Snort DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #39
Lots of JAQs today. You know, there's one I was meaning to ask you about. freshwest Mar 2015 #41
Unfortunately in his re-election last Nov. Walker won ~42% of the women's vote. HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #20
Actually, yes, a lot of women will. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #40
Wonderful role model, wonderful woman, wonderful spouse, wonderful child, wonderful first female President, a Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #5
I like the cut of your jib, sir./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #6
15 points over every Christofascist Republican clown candidate, and some liberals are whining...incredible Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #9
she is polling ahead of anyone in the GOP "pack" secondwind Mar 2015 #8
Ahead? Try "trouncing". Keeping the White House is the prime directive, it is vital...to the world. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #10
Yes, they've really ticked a lot of people overseas off! The world sees the problem. freshwest Mar 2015 #42
Women will be disproportionately crushed by Hillary's Wall St friendly policies LittleBlue Mar 2015 #12
Ad hominem. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #13
Do you really think that, given the choice, Hillary will betray her biggest financial backers LittleBlue Mar 2015 #15
Ad hominem redux. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #16
Warren Buffett's latest investment: Hillary Clinton LittleBlue Mar 2015 #21
Fighting fascists costs money. How much money do folks on DU have for the fight in this election finance wasteland? Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #23
With funding from someone who thinks Warren is too hostile to Wall Street LittleBlue Mar 2015 #26
+1 HRC is for the bankers and the corporations. DLCer thru and thru. peacebird Mar 2015 #14
Excellent points in your responses on this thread, Little Blue. Divernan Mar 2015 #32
Is there an opposite of appeal? sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #17
The opposite of "appeal" is President Christofukuistan. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #19
That is utterly ridiculous. sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #22
Many folks are simply supporters of not having a fascist State, and reject white hat/black hat thinking. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #25
And you really think that we are not 2/3 there already?n/t sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #29
Exactly. Not there yet...protect the 1/3...protect the White House....not rocket science. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #30
This makes me laugh, sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #31
Young women I know would dump philandering husbands out of self-respect. Divernan Mar 2015 #33
Each person has to make their own judgment. Each situation is unique. Who are you to judge? Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #45
You put yourself up for president, you ask to be judged! Divernan Mar 2015 #46
Again, it was a very personal spousal situation, and individual decision....who are you to judge every personal situation? Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #47
Bill's high risk self-indulgence while in a fish-bowl of public office destroyed "personal"aspect Divernan Mar 2015 #48
Go with your head and your heart. And so she did. It is her head, her heart. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #49
Women I know would not appreciate being judged by strangers for their purely personal decisions bettyellen Mar 2015 #52
The Clintons' "personal decisions" wreaked havoc on the presidency once. Divernan Mar 2015 #56
Many women forgive cheaters, many divorce them- BOTH are "no win" situations in which a woman is bettyellen Mar 2015 #57
Divorcing a repeat offender cheater is a big win, not a loss. Divernan Mar 2015 #59
Staying out of our personal lives when we are working is much bigger. I'd discredit any bettyellen Mar 2015 #60
"Thy sea, O God, so great, William769 Mar 2015 #18
Amen! hrmjustin Mar 2015 #34
ISBM and I shared two of the ones that influenced us most: freshwest Mar 2015 #43
More's the pity. DeSwiss Mar 2015 #24
No surprise, it is probably even better than the poll indicates, especially seeing how repugs are still_one Mar 2015 #27
I find any candidate, regardless of gender, dflprincess Mar 2015 #28
Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #35
Damn straight! McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #36
I wonder how much she appeals to Iraqi women after so many of them were killed Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #37
Given that Gallup is traditionally "unfriendly" to Democrats, that number might be higher, still. nt MADem Mar 2015 #38
Okay. 99Forever Mar 2015 #51
To SOME women. LWolf Mar 2015 #54
Not surprising. Beacool Mar 2015 #55
trongly appeals to me. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #58
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