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Nuclear Unicorn

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4. Many will retort --

Reply to johnnysad (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 9, 2015, 04:56 PM

Apr 2015

"But her positions on X, Y and Z are solidly Progressive."

Okay -- but is she the ONLY prospective Democratic candidate that holds those positions on those issues? I'll wager she's not. In fact, I'll wager just about any Democrat worthy of the title "Democrat" holds those positions on those issues.

The question then becomes: How encumbered should the Democratic candidate be with those things we keep seeing pop up? Waving them away on DU isn't going to keep them from merging during the general election. Her defenders -- regardless of how well-intentioned they may wish to be -- can't shout down these issues on Fox or talk radio or the internet.

Does O'Malley have this baggage? Or Sanders? Or Warren?

Name recognition isn't an excuse. Once the convention is held name recognition is a gimme.

So what excuses remain?

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Report: Clinton changed stance on trade deal after donations to foundation [View all] Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 OP

It just keeps getting better johnnysad Apr 2015 #1

Many will retort -- Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #4

Then they should run... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #9

with all due respect DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #28

I misread your subject line as "Manny will retort" arcane1 Apr 2015 #10

FOX news likes these types of post, why, because I for one do not take anything from FOX Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #15

"I have not seen where Hillary has taken a position, just others stating her position." Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #19

I guess I need to state I have not seen where Hillary has taken a position, ergo I do not know. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #20

No, we will point out the garbage of this otherwise... joeybee12 Apr 2015 #23

Which part is untrue? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #24

As long as they paid her a lot for her Vote. Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #27

What did Clinton change from and to? Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #2

Both she and Obama changed their positions after worker and human rights were added to the agreement DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #5

So you think Obama got some $$$ out of this too? Metric System Apr 2015 #16

Um, it's sort of explained in the post tularetom Apr 2015 #6

From the article -- Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #7

They probably both supported it all along Renew Deal Apr 2015 #21

The IBtimes article was posted a little while ago, you can see the claims here: emulatorloo Apr 2015 #8

And I questioned the link also. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #14

Yes, I'm tiring of innuendos that the Clinton Foundation is 'dirty' emulatorloo Apr 2015 #17

I would bet most who post negative about CGI has no idea of the projects which Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #18

A demonstrated quid pro quo? Need to see more evidence. leveymg Apr 2015 #3

Agreed, it's an example of a "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy tularetom Apr 2015 #13

"Always that nagging feeling that something slimy may be going on" Lurks Often Apr 2015 #22

Yuck. And she's supposed to be our best candidate? LittleBlue Apr 2015 #11

Follow the money. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #12

What a bunch of nonsense. Clinton/Obama didn't change their positions. tritsofme Apr 2015 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #26