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JimDandy

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36. Voluntary self-policing is never the start

Sat Apr 11, 2015, 06:34 PM

Apr 2015

of a fair system...it is the end product of an unjust system.

Voluntary self-policing is the last stand of a corrupt process that, when it has come under intense public criticism, tries to retain power and control in the hopes that, after the public eye has lost focus on it, it can go back to business as usual.

I suggest a 'while the iron is hot tactic": more intense public scrutiny/protests and dissent to force such a conservative legislature to confront and adjust the inequalities in their system.

More bills like Senate Bill 5 should be proposed...they are getting a hearing in MO's republican controlled legislature.

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‘It’s Racist As Hell': Inside St. Louis County’s Predatory Night Courts [View all] MrScorpio Apr 2015 OP

it is disgusting Skittles Apr 2015 #1

Bailey, who had a warrant stemming from a failure to appear in court for unpaid traffic tickets seveneyes Apr 2015 #2

Jails and system designed to foment hate towards cops. It's working. L0oniX Apr 2015 #3

Aw man for Pete's sake! calimary Apr 2015 #4

That's because it's all about money... MrScorpio Apr 2015 #6

If MO Senate Bill 5 becomes law, then traffic fines JimDandy Apr 2015 #23

I'm willing to take it down to five percent of less... MrScorpio Apr 2015 #26

I'm with you on that. n/t JimDandy Apr 2015 #28

I don't think there should be any incentive to make a traffic stop. Quackers Apr 2015 #33

Our traffic laws are extremely subjective... MrScorpio Apr 2015 #34

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #9

ORLY? XemaSab Apr 2015 #12

What is this "an illegal" bullshit? More anecdotal "evidence" that "whitey" is oppressed? Save it. bettyellen Apr 2015 #20

Wow, seems all those areas are policed by corrupt cops! Making sure the population Rex Apr 2015 #5

It happens to all races. pintobean Apr 2015 #11

Yeah a shame it took the feds to get something done, all those rich white gated communities Rex Apr 2015 #13

You never answer my questions pintobean Apr 2015 #16

I wonder why none of the rich, white and powerful in the area never made a peep all these years? Rex Apr 2015 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author salib Apr 2015 #21

If you had $1000 to get through the next month XemaSab Apr 2015 #15

Again, is this unique to St. Louis County? pintobean Apr 2015 #18

Not at all, but saying "people should just pay their tickets" XemaSab Apr 2015 #22

Where did you get that quote? pintobean Apr 2015 #29

So why didn't all the white people stopped and harassed ever do that instead of getting their Lars39 Apr 2015 #31

Yeah, that's what happens pintobean Apr 2015 #32

White Ferguson officials fixed tickets for their friends and family members. Lars39 Apr 2015 #38

You're talking about Ferguson pintobean Apr 2015 #39

Your experience is not everyone's experience, nor necessarily the norm. Lars39 Apr 2015 #40

Right, it's just me and the black people paying the tickets. pintobean Apr 2015 #41

Naive to think it doesn't go on in a lot of places. Lars39 Apr 2015 #42

Read post #31 again. pintobean Apr 2015 #43

Well white privilege in that area is staggering, it is a shame not one person Rex Apr 2015 #19

Those are voluntary agreements only and cover only one MO county. JimDandy Apr 2015 #27

It's a start. pintobean Apr 2015 #30

Voluntary self-policing is never the start JimDandy Apr 2015 #36

Excellent article, highly recommend. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 #7

Typical St. Louis. gordianot Apr 2015 #8

Typical America. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #10

As a life long Missourian St. Louis is a pit. gordianot Apr 2015 #37

How pathetic. That is how it was around here in the 80s and 90s. Rex Apr 2015 #14

kick Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #24

Wow ... Fantastic Anarchist Apr 2015 #25

When these systems are used for revenue generation, then they become corrupt and racist Gothmog Apr 2015 #35