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bravenak

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156. Six months and fourhundred years of peacful protest.

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 05:39 PM

Apr 2015

When was the last time you had to protest acts of institutional racism against yourself and those who look like you? It's been fourhundred years and six months, how much longer?
I suppose we should just march and get beat and fire hosed and policed dogged until you think it's been long enough? How many years of racism and poverty and police viokence are you willing to take while singing 'We shall overcome' watching your sons become targets of the system? I think it's been long enough. Ain't no amount of marching and praying going to work if it hasn't worked yet!
Just let me know how much abuse and fear for the lives of your family and how many indignitites you ard willing to put up with all day everyday while singing and marching. How many cheecks you have left to turn when the cops break your sons neck. Let me know how much suffering we deserve while marching quietly and peacefully...

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Looting and violence do NOT solve anything [View all] ram2008 Apr 2015 OP

No, but what do people expect? gollygee Apr 2015 #1

militiamen were pointing assault rifles at Federal agents... Takket Apr 2015 #49

"Know why whites don't riot much? BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THIS SHIT." DetlefK Apr 2015 #103

And when they do it's because their sports team lost...or won. Marrah_G Apr 2015 #152

When Whites Protest Sparhawk60 Apr 2015 #113

They should just sit around and wait for their own "rough ride." bravenak Apr 2015 #2

Instead of sitting around, they should be doing productive things ram2008 Apr 2015 #4

How will that stop police murder and the inevitable cover up? bravenak Apr 2015 #6

Using the political process/civil disobedience works ram2008 Apr 2015 #12

Riots work better than the political process. bravenak Apr 2015 #16

They won't work ram2008 Apr 2015 #21

Won't happen. bravenak Apr 2015 #24

Umm, you need security and stability for investment ram2008 Apr 2015 #29

How you know that once the dust clears, things won't improve? bravenak Apr 2015 #33

Simple risk vs reward. ram2008 Apr 2015 #41

The reward outweighs the risk. Period. bravenak Apr 2015 #42

The only reward coming from these riots... ram2008 Apr 2015 #48

They already have the bad shit you just named. bravenak Apr 2015 #50

Again, this is not 92 ram2008 Apr 2015 #56

I have a calendar. bravenak Apr 2015 #60

Do you have a map? ram2008 Apr 2015 #65

I was the winner of the geography bee in 8th grade. bravenak Apr 2015 #71

Well I agree with you on one thing ram2008 Apr 2015 #75

I love it too much. bravenak Apr 2015 #78

And the same ohheckyeah Apr 2015 #110

Already has happened. Egnever Apr 2015 #86

My grasp on reality is perfect. bravenak Apr 2015 #88

You folks? Egnever Apr 2015 #90

Folks that care more about the riots than the lives lost. bravenak Apr 2015 #91

That whole line is bullshit Egnever Apr 2015 #92

You do realize that there have been protest for six months and the killings keep happening. bravenak Apr 2015 #93

Of course its working Egnever Apr 2015 #95

It is not working to end the violence. We are just finding out about it in undeniable ways. bravenak Apr 2015 #97

Forget it. romanic Apr 2015 #99

6 whole months? mythology Apr 2015 #155

Six months and fourhundred years of peacful protest. bravenak Apr 2015 #156

There is ohheckyeah Apr 2015 #104

Yes there is. A small bit of justice. bravenak Apr 2015 #106

Fear is no way to ohheckyeah Apr 2015 #109

Yep. Hence the desperate acts and rioting. bravenak Apr 2015 #111

Agree. ohheckyeah Apr 2015 #112

The idea the people in the white castles are afraid is silly Egnever Apr 2015 #136

It doesn't have to be in ohheckyeah Apr 2015 #137

You are kidding yourself Egnever Apr 2015 #139

I worked long enough ohheckyeah Apr 2015 #140

Guess we will find out in the weeks to come Egnever Apr 2015 #144

As long as they can get ohheckyeah Apr 2015 #145

Past events would argue against that Egnever Apr 2015 #151

When MLK, Jr. wrote Letter from a Jail, he said the black economy was $30B. Imagine what it is now. freshwest Jul 2015 #171

I agree. Eloquently stated, as always. bravenak Jul 2015 #173

Thanks for the hug, bravenak. It means a lot coming from one who's been tested like you. freshwest Jul 2015 #174

It worked before. bravenak Apr 2015 #27

Yeah? GGJohn Apr 2015 #32

I repeat. IT WORKED BEFORE!!!! bravenak Apr 2015 #35

IT WORKED BEFORE!!!! GGJohn Apr 2015 #38

They'll do better than Freddie Gray. bravenak Apr 2015 #44

Wow, the appeal to emotion. GGJohn Apr 2015 #47

The criminal cops need to stop causing riots then. bravenak Apr 2015 #53

Wrong. GGJohn Apr 2015 #57

No, I'm right. Cops need to stop murdering people. That causes riots. bravenak Apr 2015 #59

No, you're not. GGJohn Apr 2015 #63

Cops most certainly DO need to stop murdering people. bravenak Apr 2015 #64

No shit cops need to stop murdering people, no matter what color. GGJohn Apr 2015 #68

Riots don't have justifications, just reasons. bravenak Apr 2015 #79

Well, we can agree on that aspect. eom. GGJohn Apr 2015 #81

The fear ohheckyeah Apr 2015 #105

The capitalist powers that be had the old shit cleared out XemaSab Apr 2015 #87

It is what it is. bravenak Apr 2015 #89

You are delusional ram2008 Apr 2015 #34

Not reallly. bravenak Apr 2015 #55

That's true JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #82

Thank you. bravenak Apr 2015 #85

Here's one from me, too Aerows Apr 2015 #96

They like butt pulling. bravenak Apr 2015 #98

Did some one else type it then using your account? EX500rider Apr 2015 #146

We need PEOPLE, to have money. bravenak Apr 2015 #148

No problem, the comma does make a difference. EX500rider Apr 2015 #150

this alert bravenak, really pissed me off. the more i went thru the process, the more i thought seabeyond Apr 2015 #120

Thank you. bravenak Apr 2015 #129

Good work by Juror #1. Bravenak isn't promoting, she's explaining. Just like I did. It's hi freshwest Jul 2015 #172

The Rodney King riots didn't accomplish squat onenote Apr 2015 #138

Did you live in the area at the time? bravenak Apr 2015 #147

The gang truce was very important. And it occurred before the riots. onenote Apr 2015 #165

No dear, it occurred after the riots. bravenak Apr 2015 #166

Wrong. It was worked on for some time and signed April 28, the day before the riots. onenote Apr 2015 #167

Honey, it had been worked on for YEARS. bravenak Apr 2015 #168

Agreed Harmony Blue Apr 2015 #170

Gee, you're so full of good suggestions. What are you doing to make things better? - nt KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #94

Not burning down my local neighborhood n/t ram2008 Apr 2015 #117

IOW, nothing. Typical - nt KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #119

LOL..... BronxBoy Apr 2015 #158

Gee, what are YOU doing to make things better? GGJohn Apr 2015 #160

What makes you so sure they weren't Euphoria Apr 2015 #114

How about using the political process? brooklynite Apr 2015 #7

It does not work. bravenak Apr 2015 #11

And how do you compel that change? brooklynite Apr 2015 #15

Rioting and looting scares the living shit ou of th people making the rules. bravenak Apr 2015 #20

Remember how the riots in 1968 led to a progressive Democratic President? brooklynite Apr 2015 #61

Riots are not about electing a democratic president. bravenak Apr 2015 #66

Do you imagine a Republican President will be more concerned about the police violence issue? brooklynite Apr 2015 #69

No. But it's not ven close to good under democrats. bravenak Apr 2015 #76

Completely agreed BlindTiresias Apr 2015 #133

Cloistered muthafuckers is exactly right. bravenak Apr 2015 #135

You need to study your history G_j Apr 2015 #122

I wasn't talking about the DNC... brooklynite Apr 2015 #125

Then these ohheckyeah Apr 2015 #107

And when businesses don't rebuilt, and there are less jobs available, the ride gets a little rougher Travis_0004 Apr 2015 #17

Won't happen. bravenak Apr 2015 #22

Yup, some improvements lovemydog Apr 2015 #100

Thank you, exactly. bravenak Apr 2015 #101

Not rougher than dying from a broken spine at th hand of your 'protectors'. bravenak Apr 2015 #149

Well bravenak LeftOfWest Apr 2015 #143

Thank you. bravenak Apr 2015 #157

Hint: These folks aren't interested in solving anything... Oktober Apr 2015 #3

Considered a virtue? What TF does that mean? G_j Apr 2015 #124

Which part was unclear? Oktober Apr 2015 #131

All of it n/t. LeftOfWest Apr 2015 #141

It was pretty simple... Oktober Apr 2015 #142

This country was founded on rioting and looting. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #5

It was not founded on burning down the local community's livelihood ram2008 Apr 2015 #8

Business doesn't make a community, people do. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #45

And businesses employ those people of the community, GGJohn Apr 2015 #51

well there was that whole tea party episode VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #83

what are you referring to? cali Apr 2015 #10

This land was looted by riotous genocidal mad men. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #43

Oh, well then, I guess this makes alright for these criminals to riot/loot/destroy GGJohn Apr 2015 #52

Exactly, and another revolution is taking place right before our eyes! Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #40

Is someone pretending that rioting will change things for the better? DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #9

Really, you can see it in the posts above yours. ram2008 Apr 2015 #39

"their own communities" terminology like "black on black" that is only used for situations involving Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #13

nope frylock Apr 2015 #74

"why are they doing this to themselves?!!!": the battlecry of concern trolls everywhere MisterP Apr 2015 #84

much less condemned Jamastiene Apr 2015 #162

yes, but expected during to have more self awareness Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #169

Not what's being said. At all. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #14

The tide of public opinion was finally starting to turn against cops ram2008 Apr 2015 #18

Your concern is noted. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #19

Who said people don't care about the victim? n/t Adrahil Apr 2015 #28

Yeah, but they scored some cool threads and booze. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2015 #23

They probably don't solve anything . . . markpkessinger Apr 2015 #25

hand wringing and gnashing of teeth do not solve anything either... luvspeas Apr 2015 #26

Organize and fucking VOTE Adrahil Apr 2015 #30

Ding, ding, ding; we have a winner. ram2008 Apr 2015 #36

You might not be aware of the many ways African Americans are kept from voting. gollygee Apr 2015 #102

Voter suppression is real... Adrahil Apr 2015 #108

Gangs Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2015 #31

Yep. Gangs taking advantage and exploiting a situation. alphafemale Apr 2015 #46

On a nationally syndicated Black radio show.... BronxBoy Apr 2015 #159

One wonders Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2015 #164

this probably feels comforting to say, but it just isn't true. Ed Suspicious Apr 2015 #37

Especially in your own neighborhood. nt kelliekat44 Apr 2015 #54

I never understood this, GGJohn Apr 2015 #62

It got you posting about the issue! ANd the media's cameras and attention. morningfog Apr 2015 #58

The police should consider this fact before they beat an unarmed man to death next time. 6000eliot Apr 2015 #67

The ones who are really responsible are those criminals GGJohn Apr 2015 #70

Whatever you say. 6000eliot Apr 2015 #72

No, I know what you're trying to say, GGJohn Apr 2015 #73

There are no protests without the police violence that sparked them. 6000eliot Apr 2015 #77

Not really a debate, people point out the reasons and others like to just side comment. Rex Apr 2015 #80

Preach on, Brother ram2008! backscatter712 Apr 2015 #115

What does? A Little Weird Apr 2015 #116

JFK said it best. 99Forever Apr 2015 #118

Ask Maxine Waters what she thinks. closeupready Apr 2015 #121

I'd like to see more condemnation of the police murdering human beings Matariki Apr 2015 #123

Yes - this bears repeating. Maedhros Apr 2015 #128

Are we not capable of doing two things at once? ram2008 Apr 2015 #153

Let me rephrase that then - I meant 'INSTEAD of' Matariki Apr 2015 #163

Nor does the police killing young black men solve anything. MineralMan Apr 2015 #126

You don't get it upaloopa Apr 2015 #127

Injustice causes looting and violence, and is not justifiable at all. Orsino Apr 2015 #130

No one says it does ibegurpard Apr 2015 #132

Got you talking about it BlindTiresias Apr 2015 #134

Yes they would ram2008 Apr 2015 #154

Look Robbins Apr 2015 #161