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17. Yes, but not to the point of 98% of the people being of one race.

Reply to WhaTHellsgoingonhere (Reply #12)

Tue May 5, 2015, 10:11 PM

May 2015

It's an entire universe of highly relevant, very touchy politics that barely exists in Vermont. And most of it isn't about civil rights issues - most of it is mundane interest politics. Alliances with local political leaders, institutional endorsements, etc. The Clinton machine has those under lock and key for the moment, and those interests won't be persuaded to escape by issue arguments; they're persuaded by politicking.

He'll still be a Senator even if he loses, and Hillary Clinton wouldn't hold office at all if she lost, so that actually gives him an advantage on that front. He can make some interest arguments on that basis. This is good. I hadn't realized that before.

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A Pro and Con for Bernie. [View all] True Blue Door May 2015 OP

uh, virtually every first time rep rose from obscurity cali May 2015 #1

Not a very helpful reply. True Blue Door May 2015 #2

actually, Vermont does reach the national awareness- or at least cali May 2015 #6

I'm already on board. True Blue Door May 2015 #13

There isn't a politician who ever lived ... NanceGreggs May 2015 #3

My gut is confused. True Blue Door May 2015 #7

This is absolutely correct: "Emotionally neutral persuasion is insufficient" Jackpine Radical May 2015 #23

Nobody's reaction is universal. That's one of the key obstacles. True Blue Door May 2015 #30

I think that the mass media are employing a lot of visceral conditioning. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #36

This is a crucial point. We've seen that propaganda conditioning used against Obama 24/7 True Blue Door May 2015 #37

You're not under any obligation ... NanceGreggs May 2015 #33

I know who I'm NOT voting for, at least in the primaries. True Blue Door May 2015 #34

2 million dollars raised in 48 hours and 175,000 volunteers. onecaliberal May 2015 #4

How are you going to handle talking to people who aren't already on board True Blue Door May 2015 #8

There is a ton of information I have been forwarding onecaliberal May 2015 #18

I wouldn't say he rose from obscurity. He was mayor of Burlington. okaawhatever May 2015 #5

It is encouraging that his victories are all consecutive. True Blue Door May 2015 #10

primaries are the exact time we should vote for our ideals. KittyWampus May 2015 #9

Obviously. I'm mostly looking for ways to leverage those ideals and grow the campaign. True Blue Door May 2015 #11

4/5 of the country is relatively homogeneous WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2015 #12

Yes, but not to the point of 98% of the people being of one race. True Blue Door May 2015 #17

Was Bernie popular in the very red/Bush counties? WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2015 #26

Issues RobertEarl May 2015 #14

His campaign for our two votes is about issues, and he apparently already won that campaign. True Blue Door May 2015 #20

Issues RobertEarl May 2015 #25

Why did Dean not win on the issues? Why has Kucinich never won the issues? True Blue Door May 2015 #32

I've been hearing about Bernie the Socialist since 1992. ucrdem May 2015 #15

If you have a better candidate, feel free to point them out. True Blue Door May 2015 #22

She has a lot of enemies and I hate to say but . . . ucrdem May 2015 #24

That's a minor way to measure IMO. The persons stand on issues and consistency on them is paramount L0oniX May 2015 #16

To some extent we have a responsibility to be deep citizens. True Blue Door May 2015 #27

I think your post is fair JonLP24 May 2015 #19

Thanks, that's helpful. Those are encouraging facts. True Blue Door May 2015 #28

I meant the education point mainly JonLP24 May 2015 #31

All I can offer is the main reason I stand with Bernie hootinholler May 2015 #21

He is very persuasive on the rational level. True Blue Door May 2015 #29

The last I heard, he had 175,000 people wanting to volunteer (probably higher now). mmonk May 2015 #35

Definitely. I have a better feeling about his campaign than I did Howard Dean's. True Blue Door May 2015 #38