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Showing Original Post only (View all)James Dobson on Domestic Violence: Women “Deliberately Bait” Their Husbands [View all]
I have seen marital relationships where the woman deliberately baited her husband until he hit her. This is not true in most cases of domestic violence, but it does occur. Why, one may ask, would any woman want to be hit? Because females are just as capable of hatred and anger as males, and a woman can devastate a man by enticing him to strike her. It is a potent weapon. Once he has lost control and lashed out at his tormentor, she then sports undeniable evidence of his cruelty. She can show her wounds to her friends who gasp at the viciousness of that man. She can press charges against him in some cases and have him thrown in jail. She can embarrass him at his work or in the church. In short, by taking a beating, she instantly achieves a moral advantage in the eyes of neighbors, friends, and the law. It may even help her justify a divorce, or if one comes, to gain custody of her children. Remember what the Japanese sneak attack on Pearl Harbor did to American morale and unity? It solidified our forces and gave us a cause worth fighting for. There are those who believe President Roosevelt ignored warnings of the Pearl Harbor invasion for the precise purpose of unifying our resolve against a rising Japanese imperialism. In the same spirit, I have seen women belittle and berate their husbands until they set aflame with rage. Some wives are more verbal than their husbands and can win a war of words any day of the week. Finally, the men reach a point of such frustration that they explode, doing precisely what their wives were begging them to do in the first place.
I remember one woman who came to church with a huge black eye contributed by her husband. She walked to the front of the auditorium before a crowd of five hundred people and made a routine announcement about an upcoming event. Everyone in attendance was thinking about her eye and the cad who did this to her. That was precisely what she wanted. I happened to know that her noncommunicative husband had been verbally antagonized by his wife until he finally gave her the prize she sought. Then she brought it to church to show it off. It does happen. (p. 149-50)
Update, 05/07/2015, 11:22 am Pacific: Several people have inquired if Dobson still stands by these statements written in 1983. He does indeed. Love Must Be Tough has been reprinted numerous times and this passage remains. The most recent reprint was 2007 and the passage is still there, unchanged.
I remember one woman who came to church with a huge black eye contributed by her husband. She walked to the front of the auditorium before a crowd of five hundred people and made a routine announcement about an upcoming event. Everyone in attendance was thinking about her eye and the cad who did this to her. That was precisely what she wanted. I happened to know that her noncommunicative husband had been verbally antagonized by his wife until he finally gave her the prize she sought. Then she brought it to church to show it off. It does happen. (p. 149-50)
Update, 05/07/2015, 11:22 am Pacific: Several people have inquired if Dobson still stands by these statements written in 1983. He does indeed. Love Must Be Tough has been reprinted numerous times and this passage remains. The most recent reprint was 2007 and the passage is still there, unchanged.
From: https://homeschoolersanonymous.wordpress.com/2015/05/06/james-dobson-on-domestic-violence-women-deliberately-bait-their-husbands/
One big takeaway here to me: you are never ever responsible for the violent reactions of another person. Ever. There will always be people who claim provocation, but they are hucksters who are peddling bullshit.
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James Dobson on Domestic Violence: Women “Deliberately Bait” Their Husbands [View all]
PeaceNikki
May 2015
OP
The impression I got from Dobson that he may have been sniffing airplane glue for a very long time
eloydude
May 2015
#24
Believe me, I know. He always told me it was my fault and convinced his mother of it as well.
PeaceNikki
May 2015
#3
No doubt. I'll never understand why people even try to make arguments like this.
bluegopher
May 2015
#4
There are a lot of Christians who support this theory. Women should be submissive.
PeaceNikki
May 2015
#7
Many on DU feel that those who are 'provoked' have some rationale for violence just as Dobson
Bluenorthwest
May 2015
#9
I know, BNW. The discussions have brought me back to a dark place where I was blamed
PeaceNikki
May 2015
#10
They can not see the completion of the ideas they are promoting, which is abuse of the weak
Bluenorthwest
May 2015
#11
+10 million!!!! Agreed. It's been distressing watching some of the dialogue here this week
riderinthestorm
May 2015
#51
It sounded like you were saying that being passive aggressive is "worse" than physically abusing som
PeaceNikki
May 2015
#18
Yes, I believe he used that story to stress the importence of beating children into
PeaceNikki
May 2015
#20
I bet his wife deserved it every time he slapped her around--that's how he knows
librechik
May 2015
#23
That was my very first thought - he has been abusing his wife and now he has to justify
patricia92243
May 2015
#56
The good, obedient and properly submissive wife should know better than to
Nuclear Unicorn
May 2015
#30
I was never "abused" but I had a live-in boyfriend that overstayed his welcome.
Nuclear Unicorn
May 2015
#40
Maybe I am being sexist. But I consider any guy that abuses women to be among the lowest
Katashi_itto
May 2015
#75
To excuse domestic violence with one with “Deliberately Bait” is not acceptable.
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#53
Never. There will always be another to replace him. These are core tenents of Christianity.
PeaceNikki
May 2015
#58
Jim Baker is still on TV. Don't lnow about his other outlets such as magazines, etc.
patricia92243
May 2015
#59
It's definitely an argument against getting involved with a "God-fearing Christian" man.
PeaceNikki
May 2015
#57
I was so young and never heard the woman next door scream, but apparently,
Baitball Blogger
May 2015
#63
What is even more incredibly telling, most such terrorist abusers of those they feel are
AuntPatsy
May 2015
#72
Perhaps it was a cry for someone to help her. To ask what happened. To show they care.
PeaceNikki
May 2015
#77