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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:16 AM May 2015

Why my Guv endorsing HRC AT THIS TIME, pisses me off. [View all]

I would have no problem with Governor Shumlin endorsing HRC, but his timing is tacky as all get out. He is endorsing HRC less than a week before Bernie's celebratory kickoff in Burlington. It's a slap not just to Bernie, but to Vermonters, who approve of Bernie in a big way (over 70% approval rating) and detest the guv. Pat Leahy will certainly endorse HRC and I have no problem with that, but I can't imagine him doing anything so tacky. I get that the guv is angling for a job in a HRC admin, but doing this to Bernie is just sucky. Without Bernie's help, it's doubtful he would have been re-elected. All he had to do was wait a week.

Shumlin is deeply unpopular here- with democrats and liberals as well as with the small minority of repubs. His unpopularity is rooted in his moves against Unions, his constant push to cut the social safety net. His disaster with the Health Exchange, his backing off single payer, his refusal to consider the legislature's repeated attempts to raise taxes on his fellow 1 percenters and a lot of personal and character issues- like his exploiting his disabled, poor neighbor in a land deal

Shumlin barely won reelection last year in the bluest of blue states. It went to legislature and even some dems even voted against him.

Here's more from a post of mine written in NOVEMBER of 2014:

In a state this small, you can't get away for too long with the shit Peter Shumlin has pulled. Yes, he's supposedly the most liberal governor in the country, but his incompetency, the ongoing disaster of the health exchange, his lack of virtually any good relationships with fellow lawmakers in his own party, and the nasty story about his cheating a poor neighbor out of his property, all caught up with him. In Vermont, all politics are super local.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025816030


Gov. Peter Shumlin had to sneak out the back door of his own inauguration.

That should tell you a thing or two about how politically weakened the East Montpelier Democrat finds himself as he settles in to a third two-year term.

Blocking Shumlin's path from the dais of the Vermont House to its front entrance Thursday afternoon was a group of Vermont Workers' Center activists irate over his decision three weeks ago to scrap his long-promised single-payer health care plan. After the governor concluded his inaugural remarks, the protesters sat down in the center aisle and would not leave the House for more than five hours, at which point the Vermont State Police arrested 29 of them.

Left-wing health care advocates weren't the only ones standing in Shumlin's path. Earlier in the day, 69 members of the Vermont legislature took the remarkable step of voting against returning him to office, despite the fact that he won a plurality in last November's election.

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http://www.sevendaysvt.com/OffMessage/archives/2015/01/09/analysis-peter-shumlins-no-good-very-bad-day

What the hell happened in VT

In an election cycle of shocking surprises—Larry Hogan’s win in Maryland, Mark Warner’s near-death experience—none are greater than the slap in the face Vermont voters gave Governor Peter Shumlin. Ten days after the election, Shumlin, who as Chairman of the Democratic Governor’s Association was tasked with helping elect other Democratic governors, still has not been declared winner in a race no one thought was a contest.

In 2014, few thought he would have a tough race. Republicans had a difficult time fielding a candidate, and only after the 2012 Marijuana Party candidate announced she’d run as a Republican did the party establishment, led by former governor Jim Douglas, unify around businessman Scott Milne. Though he had never held office before, he was the son of two prominent Republicans and had the sort of bio Vermonters love: raised on a farm, small businessman, an avid hiker who lived next to the Appalachian Trail.

He spent only $20,000 on television to win the August Republican primary, and no one seriously thought he had a chance to win the general. At least until around 9 pm on election night when the numbers showed him in a dead heat with Peter Shumlin. In the end, Shumlin led by a puny 2,434 votes, less than the 50 percent margin needed for victory under Vermont law. This throws the election into the Vermont state house, where Democrats have a sizeable advantage.

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Assuming he sticks it out, the election will be thrown into the Vermont state house, where Democrats have a sizeable advantage. It’s assumed the vote will go Shumlin’s way. But for a governor who was never very popular with fellow state legislators when he was a colleague and has often treated them dismissively as governor, it is most humbling that his fate now rests in their hands.

How did the Chairman of the Democratic Governors Association in the bluest of blue states not even make it to 50 while Vermont’s single Congressman, Democratic Peter Welch, won with 64 percent? This in a state that has a near record-low unemployment of 4.4 percent.

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/13/what-the-hell-happened-in-vermont.html

the land deal:

http://vtdigger.org/2013/05/24/digging-deep-into-the-shumlin-dodge-deal/

http://thevpo.org/2015/02/12/peter-shumlin-tough-guy/

http://www.vermontpressbureau.com/vsea-pushes-back-on-cuts-shumlin-unfazed/

Guess Which Ultra Liberal State Is About to Become a Hellish Place for People to Work in?

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The governor also announced that he plans to hack away at state jobs by consolidating emergency call centers and closing a school that serves state prisoners. In addition, he said that Vermont parents should “expect better outcomes for our students at lower costs.” He’s called for education cuts and higher student-teacher ratios, moves that will probably result in layoffs. This past fall, he announced he wants to outlaw teacher strikes in the state.

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http://www.alternet.org/labor/whats-matter-vermont
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More to the point, SheilaT May 2015 #1
Why is it "too early"? brooklynite May 2015 #10
When we are almost a year out from the actual primaries and caucuses, SheilaT May 2015 #39
By the time it matters, people will have forgotton his endorsement! TheNutcracker May 2015 #51
indeed. I can understand cali's frustration but, a year from now things are going to look Hiraeth May 2015 #52
...and you are entitled to your opinion... brooklynite May 2015 #74
in the last primary hfojvt May 2015 #67
I'd forgotten that. SheilaT May 2015 #68
well it was a rather big deal hfojvt May 2015 #69
I never did visit her website back then, SheilaT May 2015 #71
In a way, he turned himself into a neoliberal eloydude May 2015 #2
I don't know that you could classify him as a neoliberal, he's just a really cali May 2015 #3
Well, if he's that sleazy, we should be glad he's not in Bernie's camp. Fawke Em May 2015 #40
I suspect.... quickesst May 2015 #62
another with reading comprehension difficulties cali May 2015 #63
I didn't come up quickesst May 2015 #70
so you're being deliberately obtuse. OK. I don't like Clinton cali May 2015 #73
This one must really sting with all of the effort to tear him down. NCTraveler May 2015 #4
No. It pisses me off. It would sting if I liked and admired Scummy, but as cali May 2015 #6
How did he get elected then? MoonRiver May 2015 #42
What part did you miss? In the bluest of states, running against a repub who cali May 2015 #45
Makes Hillary look bad too. Such a slimy character isn't someone you want endorsing you at this sabrina 1 May 2015 #7
I disagree. NCTraveler May 2015 #9
You're right. It's not hard to put lipstick on that pig, but please stop being dishonest cali May 2015 #46
You are wandering off the reservation with your posts. NCTraveler May 2015 #50
no. you're misrepresenting it. cali May 2015 #59
Bernie actually worked to get Shumlin elected cali May 2015 #15
I would expect Sen. Leahy to endorse the party's candidate, I like him a lot, but that is to be sabrina 1 May 2015 #18
give us some examples of his progressive accomplishments questionseverything May 2015 #54
Sure NCTraveler May 2015 #57
He joins ... OKNancy May 2015 #5
Party must be worried about Bernie. The Establishment coming out early to back their candidate. sabrina 1 May 2015 #8
Are you meaning Pat Leahy is a big money wall street senator boston bean May 2015 #12
Leahy is a loyal Dem and when the Party calls, he will respond, I'm sure Bernie expected that. sabrina 1 May 2015 #16
Of course members of a party... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #24
Well, as a NYer when Hillary came to NY to run for the Senate, she ran as a Dem so most of us sabrina 1 May 2015 #27
I do think those who accused her of being a carpetbagger had a point. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #33
It wasn't audacious at all. The Repub was so bad that just about anyone could have beaten him. Even sabrina 1 May 2015 #36
I have no problem with Pat supporting HRC. And he sure isn't a cali May 2015 #17
The establishment supports the labeling of GMO's? NCTraveler May 2015 #13
The VT establisment sure does. And Scummy bailed on single payer cali May 2015 #19
You are far out there. NCTraveler May 2015 #22
Talking about grade school Long Drive May 2015 #28
Neither. It was suppose to be "you". NCTraveler May 2015 #30
I'm sure you do Long Drive May 2015 #34
And cheers back to you. I like that. nt. NCTraveler May 2015 #37
I was wrong about that and I apologize again for it cali May 2015 #53
So no, you don't understand the politics of Vermont or my view on politics. NCTraveler May 2015 #55
Kick It Cali Long Drive May 2015 #25
I have no problem with that- though I'm not sure that cali May 2015 #11
Anyone who endorses any candidate this early is a fool. Autumn May 2015 #14
It's his deliberately stepping on Bernie's kickoff that I find so nasty cali May 2015 #20
A petty fool at that. Autumn May 2015 #21
I wish DU was as good at attacking Republicans as it is at attacking Democrats. FSogol May 2015 #23
Exactly. SoapBox May 2015 #26
So do I. sabrina 1 May 2015 #31
I've yet to see them attack a Democrat. n/t jtuck004 May 2015 #38
Hillary has never been attacked on DU? nt Cali_Democrat May 2015 #41
Did Shumlin win on a, "Well, it's him or the GOP'er" vote? Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #29
He barely won in a state that doesn't even have a functional repub party cali May 2015 #32
In other words: Ossification, insularity and a lack of a competititve field Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #35
no, not really accurate cali May 2015 #43
I do not understand the Hillary love?? Angry Dragon May 2015 #44
The nerve of someone having an opinion!!!! MyNameGoesHere May 2015 #47
you either didn't read my op or you have serious reading comprehension problems cali May 2015 #61
Oh hurt pain whaaaaaa MyNameGoesHere May 2015 #75
Shumlin`s giant SCREW YOU to Bernie democrank May 2015 #48
. stonecutter357 May 2015 #49
You should write and tell him. MineralMan May 2015 #56
I'm sure he's getting quite and earful from Vermonters for not cali May 2015 #64
Did you listen to Shumlin on "Vermont Edition" this afternoon? gregcrawford May 2015 #58
no, I forgot. Man, the posts in this thread denying the info in the OP are something else cali May 2015 #60
The timing of this endorsement is no coincidence; it's all coordinated by the Clinton campaign. AtomicKitten May 2015 #65
I can see why it upset you. hrmjustin May 2015 #66
That is irritating. HappyMe May 2015 #72
If he supports and votes for Hillary I will thank him for his support and vote. Thinkingabout May 2015 #76
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