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karynnj

(59,495 posts)
4. Not to mention, it goes a bit too far -- all of these were worse, both in what they
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:15 AM
May 2015

did, but in the fact that all had pretended to a being "moral" and "upstanding", while Clinton, from at least the 1992 election agreed he had "caused pain in his marriage." However, "choir boy" goes too far, though I assume that may be Frank's hook to get attention to all the details wonderfully laid out.

What it likely does show is that among men with the ambition to run for office and the customs that in many cases make it a norm that the family lives in the home state, might lead to many elected officials being unfaithful.

Hastert goes beyond all of these if, as appears to be the case, he took advantage of a student who was under his guidance as either a teacher or coach - or both. I wonder if the slowness of his reaction to the Foley accusations, where pages were abused by Congressmen was partly that he did not really see this as being as despicable as it was because he had done essentially the same thing to high schoolers. Even if the student was an 18 year old senior, this is unethical. If, as might also be the case, the action was not consensual, it is despicable regardless of age.

Probably the first and last time for Bill Clinton being called a "choir boy." Gidney N Cloyd May 2015 #1
Not to mention, it goes a bit too far -- all of these were worse, both in what they karynnj May 2015 #4
+1 Scuba May 2015 #5
What happened at VT? appalachiablue May 2015 #16
I don't know how these others can be worse. There is a victim in roguevalley May 2015 #27
Right. Android3.14 May 2015 #39
A student? When did they release that information because the last time I heard was only that it cstanleytech May 2015 #45
I don't think that's a perfect statement. PDittie May 2015 #2
Not exactly a child HERVEPA May 2015 #3
I don't understand this response. PDittie May 2015 #17
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/childchild. HERVEPA May 2015 #18
Thx nt PDittie May 2015 #19
Do we know how old "Individual A" was when Hastert abused him? csziggy May 2015 #29
On the flip side ejbr May 2015 #12
The people going after Bill awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #20
The hypocrisy is astounding.. mountain grammy May 2015 #6
Isn't that rich!?! calimary May 2015 #31
well put! - n/t RussBLib May 2015 #38
beautifully put, Calimary, simply beautiful! peacebird May 2015 #42
Lewinsky was the LEAST bad thing Clinton did.Rape was the worst. 7962 May 2015 #44
This is the first time I've heard that someone claimed Bill raped her Frances May 2015 #53
There was one: 7962 May 2015 #57
I remember a boss I had. She was a rich Republican mountain grammy May 2015 #46
Well actually the impeached him for lying about it yeoman6987 May 2015 #54
The point is the massive hypocrisy...preaching and legislating restrictive Holy Morals to others - while Willy goes free. Fred Sanders May 2015 #7
Exactly, Fred! Plucketeer May 2015 #8
Preaching against, while practicing IN workinclasszero May 2015 #9
And if we don't think pedophilia and incest existed back in those golden 50s erronis May 2015 #13
It's not really perfect... Kalidurga May 2015 #10
GOP tagline "well that's different" PumpkinAle May 2015 #11
Family Values...Quick, ask for Forgiveness. Or as another saying, libdem4life May 2015 #14
"Saturday night sinners awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #21
Feel free. Actually it's "repenters" ... the Jimmy Swaggert type ...but it infers "repeaters". LOL libdem4life May 2015 #22
Oops, bitten by autocorrect awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #23
I think they phrase it "Not perfect, just forgiven" or something like that.... peacebird May 2015 #43
I've lived with it since birth...trust me there are Many Versions to this delicate question. But libdem4life May 2015 #49
Conservatives are messed up. Gregorian May 2015 #15
So well put. BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #28
Nailed it. Conservatives tend to lack empathy. SomeGuyInEagan May 2015 #33
I know brain studies have shown differences BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #34
Several of those traits especially lack of empathy, personal insight and concern for appalachiablue May 2015 #47
Yes indeed, cluster B personality disorders. BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #48
When a mind ceases to inquire, but repeats the closed loop tape, mental, psychological and all are libdem4life May 2015 #50
Thanks! Gregorian May 2015 #35
likewise! BlancheSplanchnik May 2015 #37
William Miller would've died of shame... 47of74 May 2015 #40
They impeached Clinton The Wizard May 2015 #24
Jerry Sandusky was an assistant football coach The Wizard May 2015 #25
Lol kairos12 May 2015 #30
Repression is what they're all about . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #26
A low bar with what you basically have to compare... bad behavior... MrMickeysMom May 2015 #32
$$$ 63splitwindow May 2015 #36
Bless Barney Frank for telling it like it is. It's the flaming reeking hypocrisy. nt Hekate May 2015 #41
Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury and maybe also contempt of court. merrily May 2015 #51
Hastert's sexual hypocrisy is NOT the worst of it. guillaumeb May 2015 #52
Hypocrisy on a scale that monumental scale needs to be identified in public. Good for Barney. n/t pa28 May 2015 #55
Barney had his OWN problems in office, child prostitution being run out of his apartment TheNutcracker May 2015 #56
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