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In reply to the discussion: They Dared Me to Post This... [View all]BainsBane
(53,029 posts)You simply agreed with one of the people who did. One can only do both if they care about both. The clear argument here is that race does not matter, or that it only matters for the poor. The argument is that people of color are not fit to voice their own experiences and interests, that only the few chosen white people understand what really matters.
You merely agreed that a person of color was "lacking in knowledge and facts" when she talked about the racism she experienced. You then said that my suggesting you didn't know more about what is was like to experience racism amounted to "muzzling people based on race" and that telling a black person she was "lacking in knowledge and facts" about racism amounted to an "honest discussion of race." That most certainly is a performance of privilege, and there is nothing leftist about any of it.
As for social and economic justice. What is amazing is that people have no qualms about turning arguments around on a dime when it suits their own purposes. This entire division of social and economic was created here by the self proclaimed true leftists/liberals. The ones who pretend to be the only true leftists have for a very long time told us that social issues were less important than what they care about--TPT, their anger at bankers, and drones. They have insisted those social issues were "Third Way." That efforts by DOJ to defend voting rights and extend civil rights protection to rape victims on college campuses amounted to nothing or worse, yet, violated the constitutional rights of men. They openly decry the party's efforts to appeal to women and people of color, its most loyal voters. One leading light even claimed that corporations had sent those groups into the party to divert it from its true mission of representing the working class (presumably white, male). People who money systematically go around DU insulting people far less prosperous that themselves as being allied with Goldman Sachs and the 1 percent for failing to prioritize their class interests as opposed to the rights and concerns of those insulted. Now you all claim there is no distinction between social and economic justice, when it is clear the only economic justice being proposed is the restoration of the white upper-middle class and middle-class to what it sees as its birthright atop the capitalist world order. Poverty should be addressed by throwing the poor a few food stamps. Racism by promoting the white bourgeoisie existing agenda and just trusting that what they want will take care of the problems of people of color. In response to questions about how to heal the divide, they respond by saying black people need to get behind opposing TPP, or NSA surveillance disproportionately hurts them. How? Based on what? It's bullshit, a transparent con job. And sexism, well forget that. C....ts like me need to keep our mouths shut and stay in our place. Who are we to imagine we even deserve to be treated as human beings. There are "real issues." Who are we to suggest our lives matter.
So you tell me exactly who this we is that are all in it together because it sure as hell doesn't include me. That has been communicated to me quite explicitly.