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79. Attacking the character of the poster rather than responding to content of the post.

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NYT 2009 American workers are overpaid. Gap must close. Happening now. Thanks, Obama. [View all] madfloridian Jun 2015 OP

Oh, a new meme is that, somehow, the entire agreement has been completely rewritten or something djean111 Jun 2015 #1

Never mind. misunderstood. madfloridian Jun 2015 #2

I think you misunderstood DJ13 Jun 2015 #4

Updated. Thanks. madfloridian Jun 2015 #5

They want us to make lemonade... Kalidurga Jun 2015 #3

They're giving us lemons DJ13 Jun 2015 #6

Yeah, but then we have to give the lemon back. Kalidurga Jun 2015 #11

Glad Bernie has been against this all along. madfloridian Jun 2015 #7

Me too. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #23

Don't be silly ... Quasimodem Jun 2015 #22

Ouch so true Kalidurga Jun 2015 #71

It's a self defeating attitude to assume that the rest of the world can live like Americans. Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #80

Yes, we are but I remember when we were number 1 in a whole lot of areas Kalidurga Jun 2015 #83

Is it a liberal attitude to assume that the rest of the world has no right to "live like Americans"? pampango Jun 2015 #86

. Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #90

Very well off people are writing this tripe. Torches, pitchforks, and the National Raz . . . Ed Suspicious Jun 2015 #8

thanks, mad. nt antigop Jun 2015 #9

Los Angeles Times this week: Gap's management and product line suck badly. Front page. Hekate Jun 2015 #10

Um historylovr Jun 2015 #43

Ha! Well you can certainly see how I might make that mistake in context of current events Hekate Jun 2015 #44

I figured. historylovr Jun 2015 #46

Reading past the headline would have helped you immensely. cui bono Jun 2015 #72

In some ways that's true Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #82

Correction: They're not raising the standard of the other country, they're pocketing the difference. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #12

Very good point. madfloridian Jun 2015 #13

And entirely accurate. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #24

Yes. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #31

The subtext is that manufacturing in China is becoming expensive... Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #84

There are corporations that offer slave labor to corporations. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #92

They are absolutely raising the living standard of the other countries Recursion Jun 2015 #94

A very few are getting rich. The rest are treated like prisoners.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #100

And people line up from the villages for that Recursion Jun 2015 #101

It's the same business model we're using with Mexico. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #103

Mexico is maybe slightly comparable Recursion Jun 2015 #107

Ever watch "Shark Tank"? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #109

That's exactly right and that's the most heinous part of it all. mountain grammy Jun 2015 #134

They claim the product will cost a fortune if they have to pay US wages.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #135

Get conservatives to join us by telling them that Globalists have effectively committed treason by.. AZ Progressive Jun 2015 #14

Well it's true. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #20

Very true. That is precisely what has happened. And the Republicans and Obama are to blame. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #32

The theory purportedly was supposed to play out like this: closeupready Jun 2015 #137

The Military and our National Leadrship considered China a "threat" long before Free Trade. bvar22 Jun 2015 #136

BTW, this is how the Globalists see the world economy in 2050 AZ Progressive Jun 2015 #15

Interesting graphic...kind of scary. madfloridian Jun 2015 #16

"So little of the pie?" we're 1/3rd the size on India Recursion Jun 2015 #93

So, what is your solution. Are we supposed to impede China, Russia, Brazil, India, etc., Hoyt Jun 2015 #19

What a skewed way of looking at it. madfloridian Jun 2015 #21

I think our lifestyle will be on the decline for awhile without having to do anything. Hoyt Jun 2015 #26

A reason it's on the decline....that's why I posted this. madfloridian Jun 2015 #28

No to a reductioni n the American living standard. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #30

Don't think we are headed for slums like Brazil and Peru. But for poor folks here Hoyt Jun 2015 #34

You haven't been to Detroit lately, have you? davekriss Jun 2015 #40

Fuck the rich and the whores who enable them. GeorgeGist Jun 2015 #76

We need to hit the rich FIRST, not "hit them up later"... cascadiance Jun 2015 #131

I agree, tax the rich first. As to VAT, it's just not a simple as self-styled "progressives" want Hoyt Jun 2015 #133

On the contrary Egnever Jun 2015 #139

Good points. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #140

Easy to accept a decline in lifestyle when you are not living hand to mouth me b zola Jun 2015 #63

You don't read very well do you. My life doesn't "rock," but it's better than poor in many places. Hoyt Jun 2015 #64

Rather than attacking my reading capabilities, try listening to those living hand to mouth me b zola Jun 2015 #66

I said those in the "lower" 20% or so need progress. The other 80% needs to get prepared. Hoyt Jun 2015 #116

Are you an American? JDPriestly Jun 2015 #36

American dream, is just that. I'm sorry, There's a reason we are referred to as "greedy Americans." Hoyt Jun 2015 #37

Are you really an American? JDPriestly Jun 2015 #39

I live in a big world, that we don't own, rule, or have a right to hoard wealth. Hoyt Jun 2015 #41

We will not improve the lot of the bottom 20% here with these trade deals. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #42

Yeah, my yahoo neighbor tells me America First junk too. We should not whine about other countries Hoyt Jun 2015 #48

No one is whining about other countries doing better. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #53

Our country is not doing worse than most of the world. Hoyt Jun 2015 #54

For how long? The trade deals have slowed economic improvement and progress for the bottom JDPriestly Jun 2015 #60

Fuck yeah, the phrase: "The TPP is a corporate coup" should be heavily repeated AZ Progressive Jun 2015 #58

That's just a ridiculous view of things. madfloridian Jun 2015 #45

Again, there's a reason the world thinks we are greedy. Hoyt Jun 2015 #49

More and more I am becoming a protectionist in many ways. madfloridian Jun 2015 #50

Hey, I've said all along that some of the opposition to TPP is American greed. Hoyt Jun 2015 #51

Oh, geez, I'm done. madfloridian Jun 2015 #52

Your assumption that the trade deals are good for the world's poor is false. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #61

Something has been good for the world's poor since the bottom 2/3 have the best income gains pampango Jun 2015 #77

Here's how you, "Hoyt", can "help the world's poor": brentspeak Jun 2015 #67

Attacking the character of the poster rather than responding to content of the post. pampango Jun 2015 #79

So who's attacking, Mr. US Chamber of Offshoring Talking Points? brentspeak Jun 2015 #87

I post what FDR actually did. If you believe FDR was "parroting Business Roundtable talking points", pampango Jun 2015 #89

Listen to Deportee some time. Guthrie cared about the world's poor, in a time when most folks knew Hoyt Jun 2015 #119

Creative way to rationalize your irrelevant premise. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #138

Happened to me twice, but software and robots have taken my job 4 times Recursion Jun 2015 #97

In other words, you don't care. That's clear. What do you do that is so easily shipped overseas? Hoyt Jun 2015 #118

Damn straight, the progressive movement fought for and won for us the standards of living that we have enjoyed AZ Progressive Jun 2015 #55

People in other countries could do the same. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #62

Exactly. The progressive movement fought to lower tariffs and raise income taxes. FDR knew that pampango Jun 2015 #78

You're getting more ridiculous by the post brentspeak Jun 2015 #105

Yup. Many white Americans could afford that for about 40 years Recursion Jun 2015 #95

You are saying that the middle class was an anomaly. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #108

The middle class wasn't just "denied" to African Americans, it was built on them Recursion Jun 2015 #110

Sorry, but the white experience was the majority experience. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #123

The US and UK are still way over represented there Recursion Jun 2015 #98

Dog and cat eating China is going to surpass the US ...no doubt. L0oniX Jun 2015 #104

this is why the gop supports it restorefreedom Jun 2015 #17

Exactly. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #25

K&R! THE TRUTH! I'm with you 100%! Enthusiast Jun 2015 #18

K&R. JDPriestly Jun 2015 #27

Kick, Rec and saving for tomorrow. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2015 #29

It needs to be said passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #33

This I agree with: JDPriestly Jun 2015 #38

I know a woman whose family income is around 100K passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #70

+1 historylovr Jun 2015 #47

Nobody's going to run what's effectively a charity to employ Americans at the wages we are used to Recursion Jun 2015 #99

I agree with you, but passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #121

She was on Walmart's Board of Directors for six years. closeupready Jun 2015 #35

Your sentences below really spoke to me, and I agree wholeheartedly with them: CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2015 #56

Coming from you that means a lot. madfloridian Jun 2015 #57

Aw, thank you so much, my dear madfloridian... CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2015 #59

You should never feel that way. madfloridian Jun 2015 #65

What madfloridian said. Scuba Jun 2015 #74

I want you to know I hope you are feeling better about things tonight. madfloridian Jun 2015 #130

I am feeling better, and thank you so much, my dear madfloridian...You're a sweetheart. CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2015 #132

NYT, November 2008: Let Detroit Go Banrkrupt ucrdem Jun 2015 #68

How condescending. "Please try to do better." madfloridian Jun 2015 #69

Why was it so important to get compensation for American rhett o rick Jun 2015 #126

Yeah, it's all the fault of too much trade - which we do much less of than countries with high wages pampango Jun 2015 #73

/\_/\_This right here_/\_/\ Scuba Jun 2015 #75

I will bet they are'nt calling to lower prices DiverDave Jun 2015 #81

only republicans have stated they want to do away with the Federal minimum wage AND Sunlei Jun 2015 #85

It's all part of the plan. cloudbase Jun 2015 #88

Kick FloriTexan Jun 2015 #91

No I think the aim is to bring the other countries up to us treestar Jun 2015 #96

"other countries must stay poor so we can have it all" ?? madfloridian Jun 2015 #120

Either way treestar Jun 2015 #141

Article recommends up to 20% cut for American workers for "global balance." madfloridian Jun 2015 #122

If people in the third world come up 20% treestar Jun 2015 #142

Oh, come on. madfloridian Jun 2015 #143

The market will work treestar Jun 2015 #144

It looks to me like the 1% are so unwilling to let go of a single penny that they djean111 Jun 2015 #102

Leaving the great unwashed to scrabble ... Alkene Jun 2015 #112

Time to dust off the guillotine? gregcrawford Jun 2015 #106

I've posted ohheckyeah Jun 2015 #111

Don't feel bad at all. Happens a lot. madfloridian Jun 2015 #113

Yeah - ohheckyeah Jun 2015 #115

Dang it. A whole nation, built by murdering the indigenous people and stealing their homes and jtuck004 Jun 2015 #114

Why should "karma" come back on the lower classes? It was the wealthy that reaped the rhett o rick Jun 2015 #128

Nearly everyone in this country has more because it was denied to others. jtuck004 Jun 2015 #129

Not just a trade agreement. About much more than just trade. madfloridian Jun 2015 #117

Well, this is the purpose of primaries... PatrickforO Jun 2015 #124

I agree. That and Iraq War 2 very big issues for me. madfloridian Jun 2015 #127

The big lie is that they don't intend to bring the rest of the world workers up rhett o rick Jun 2015 #125

Exactly! BuelahWitch Jun 2015 #145

Sorry, but this is looting the middle class. Oneironaut Jun 2015 #146