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LWolf

(46,179 posts)
22. sigh
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 01:13 PM
Jun 2015

I don't remember the dogpile you refer to. Not that it didn't happen, but since, before there was no other choice, Clinton and Obama were tied for last place at the bottom of my primary rankings, I wasn't in the middle of that fight. Neither was I in the middle when they were the only two left standing. I didn't really have much to fight about, since I didn't support either one of them. I didn't bother to pay attention to the convention that summer, or the ge campaign. I had no "dog" in that hunt.

In the later primaries, I did lean HRC, simply because the constant mantra of Obama being "not dlc" was so aggravating, as his neo-liberal positions were on open display for all to witness.

Frankly, I found the devolution of the Democratic Party during the '08 primaries to be a public humiliation. Here was the party that was supposed to stand for the underdogs dividing along the lines of race and gender. THAT NEVER SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED. Supporting one candidate over another? Fine. Trying to postulate that issues of race were more important than issues of gender, or vice versa? Discpicable hypocricy, imo, reducing the issues to campaign talking points instead of real world problems.

When my primary rolled around in late May, it was all over but the shouting, so I cast a protest vote for HRC.

I haven't seen a dogpile at this point, either. But then, I don't read most threads about HRC. Again, she's at the bottom of my list, and I have a better candidate to focus my attention on. I HAVE seen legitimate criticism from her own party, and I expect Republicans to spew all kinds of shit, which, even though she's not getting my vote, I'll defend. Most of that shit, though, would come in the GE should she be nominated.

I'm a woman. I'm not angry when HRC is called on her neo-liberal policies. I won't be rising to defend her from those. I won't be supporting her. I save my angry energy for neo-liberals, neo-conservatives, and all those who support the erosion of social and economic justice.

Why I Love the Dogpile on Clinton [View all] McCamy Taylor Jun 2015 OP
she was picked on? snooper2 Jun 2015 #1
Well, not all women are Clinton supporters. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2015 #2
^^^^this^^^^ haikugal Jun 2015 #57
2008 when she lost? Capt. Obvious Jun 2015 #3
Huh? ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2015 #4
Apparently I give women a lot more credit than you. I suspect they think beyond gender ... Scuba Jun 2015 #5
+1. nt tblue37 Jun 2015 #46
Yeah......NOPE. HappyMe Jun 2015 #6
As well as your mindless ignoring of the women who are fed up with the misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #27
I am not mindlessly ignoring anything. HappyMe Jun 2015 #30
Dogpiling must be a new sport, it does not change her record and it sure does not Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #7
Her record and senseless garbage like this OP HappyMe Jun 2015 #8
WTH are you talking about? Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #13
I am a woman. HappyMe Jun 2015 #15
True. It has absolutely turned me away from Sanders. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #31
I like Bernie....n/t monmouth4 Jun 2015 #9
Walmart faced accusations, during HRC's six year seat on the BoD, closeupready Jun 2015 #10
Wal-Mart again? Beacool Jun 2015 #17
Did she resign? And if so, why? closeupready Jun 2015 #33
Because it is easier to try to change an institution from within Beacool Jun 2015 #36
Thus, her incompetence. closeupready Jun 2015 #41
That's utter nonsense and leads me to believe that you never worked in a large corporation. Beacool Jun 2015 #42
You, too! closeupready Jun 2015 #44
so when should Bernie have resigned dsc Jun 2015 #58
What is her Walmart BoD voting record?? closeupready Jun 2015 #59
Please stop with the victim mentality NightWatcher Jun 2015 #11
She was not picked on by those meanie men. Campaigning is a tough business. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #12
Ya. Have you noticed what our current leaders in America have stripped from women's equality? misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #35
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #45
Those current leaders are republican and teabagging shit stirring assholes SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #47
Unfortunately it will get uglier and nastier and sexism will play Iliyah Jun 2015 #14
and anti-Semitism will/might play a major part as well. SaranchaIsWaiting Jun 2015 #19
What's next? Anti Socialism? redstateblues Jun 2015 #54
Clinton's campaign is not sweetness and light Prism Jun 2015 #16
LOL aikoaiko Jun 2015 #23
Brilliant! whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #28
LOLOL closeupready Jun 2015 #39
I don't think it is that at all, some view her time as Secretary of State, Senator Rex Jun 2015 #18
Your ignoring Robbins Jun 2015 #20
Yawn x2 cherokeeprogressive Jun 2015 #21
sigh LWolf Jun 2015 #22
^THIS^.. is exactly what's happening. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #24
I'm yet entertained by the charlatans who prophecize winners 18 months out LanternWaste Jun 2015 #25
Have you pondered why there's a "dog pile" whatchamacallit Jun 2015 #26
You're such an expert on what riles up women! Ino Jun 2015 #29
Thank you. HappyMe Jun 2015 #32
Yah... that's what McCain was counting on! (nt) Ino Jun 2015 #37
Yes. It was insulting then, HappyMe Jun 2015 #40
lol!!! bunnies Jun 2015 #51
All hail the Vagiborg (or Vorg for short). demmiblue Jun 2015 #56
What dogpiling? Nobody's here is attacking HRC on gender and we're not being unfair to her. Ken Burch Jun 2015 #34
Hardly. I have yet to see a Pro Hillary post linked to a RW rag site. misterhighwasted Jun 2015 #38
People in her party are criticizing her record and her ties to Wall Street and the Pentagon tularetom Jun 2015 #43
Dogpile? colsohlibgal Jun 2015 #48
"If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." - Harry S Truman Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2015 #49
Every room is now a kitchen. LanternWaste Jun 2015 #50
If you can't stand the Bern, get out of the kitchen Grilled Charlie Jun 2015 #53
"Help, I'm being repressed: 2" AtomicKitten Jun 2015 #52
If only we could have had an Edwards Whitehouse. Orrex Jun 2015 #55
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