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Zenlitened

(9,488 posts)
13. It's the recent surge in talking points...
Tue Jul 7, 2015, 05:18 PM
Jul 2015

Last edited Wed Jul 8, 2015, 03:27 PM - Edit history (1)

...that's spurring some opposition to this topic, I think.

It's been such an obvious — and dishonest — rightwing meme for so long, people are wise to be suspicious.

And it's built on a falsehhood, as if affirming the right of all couples to wed inevitably leads to plural marriage somehow.

It doesn't.

Gay and lesbian couples have simply gained access to an existing legal and societal institution, marriage.

There is no existing legal and social institution for intimate plural relationships, here in the United States.

Perhaps there will be someday.

But it will require the creation of new structures, many of which are not easily inferred from what exists for couples.

And that effort, in my view, will best be led by people in or wishing to be in plural relationships, separate from the current rightwing inspired discussion.

Because the rightwing doesn't really give a damn about what's best for the poly community.

They're just out to puke on the LGBT community in this time of celebration, with the same old cynical lie about "redefining" marriage.

The supreme court justices have not redefined marriage. They have reaffirmed it.




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I remember Nina Hartley on Oprah years ago talking about the virtues of an open marriage, it will orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #1
open marriages are still monogamous from a legal point of view. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #2
Until SCOTUS decides otherwise. Wella Jul 2015 #3
lol, you are persistent over the short term. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #7
SCOTUS will legalize polymarriage Wella Jul 2015 #9
lol, voluntary behavior is not a basis for being an oppressed class geek tragedy Jul 2015 #10
That was and is the RW argument against gay marriage Wella Jul 2015 #11
"Gays can voluntarily choose not to engage in same sex behavior." geek tragedy Jul 2015 #14
That's NOT my opinion. That is the RW opinion I am quoting. Wella Jul 2015 #16
Like hell it is, when you claim that being gay is the equivalent to geek tragedy Jul 2015 #18
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #21
Fucking nailed it... SidDithers Jul 2015 #20
But apparently polyphobes do. Wella Jul 2015 #23
No. People who care about the rights and welfare of women are here riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #47
Painfully obvious. zappaman Jul 2015 #41
Marriage is an institution that solidifies a lifestyle in to a Legal commitment . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #31
no, it's just a legal commitment, has nothing to do with lifestyle geek tragedy Jul 2015 #32
True it is a legal commitment, but it's employed/desired/chosen/ because of lifestyle . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #43
Good point, orpupilofnature57. Wella Jul 2015 #36
Eventually, laws will have to be introduced Wella Jul 2015 #6
lol closeupready Jul 2015 #4
favorite topic in the WOLRD! snooper2 Jul 2015 #5
Okay...polygamy, polyamory, polyandry, and now polymarriage I've got. Iggo Jul 2015 #8
It'll be easier to also block the author of the majority of these threads. tammywammy Jul 2015 #12
Ah! Iggo Jul 2015 #38
Ikr? Geez... nt riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #17
It's the recent surge in talking points... Zenlitened Jul 2015 #13
The RW wants to stop polymarriage and wants to push back the clock on gay marriage Wella Jul 2015 #15
The RW doesn't give a damn about poly relationships. Zenlitened Jul 2015 #19
The don't want them legalized. Wella Jul 2015 #22
Wrong. They see those groups as tools to be used then discarded. Zenlitened Jul 2015 #25
So the RW is producing Sister/Wives? Wella Jul 2015 #27
You okay? Zenlitened Jul 2015 #29
You claim that the RW is supporting polygamy; I said that it wasn't Wella Jul 2015 #37
I said no such thing. That's a fiction you invented. Zenlitened Jul 2015 #39
Oh, I see your account is flagged for review. Zenlitened Jul 2015 #45
Great post. JoePhilly Jul 2015 #26
Shouldn't this be in the "Plural Marriage" group?? JoePhilly Jul 2015 #24
These polyWTF threads make DU look stupid leftstreet Jul 2015 #28
When one door opens, I agree some want to minimize Gay Rights victory, some want theirs . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #30
Politico: "It's time to legalize polygamy." Wella Jul 2015 #34
To me, that's exactly how it looks... SidDithers Jul 2015 #33
That's a very limited perpective. Polymarriage is its own issue. Wella Jul 2015 #35
... William769 Jul 2015 #48
Nice... SidDithers Jul 2015 #49
Problem is, the next genuine deeply religious "advocate" of poygamy will now be a suspected sock whatthehey Jul 2015 #50
Ha. Thanks, William. closeupready Jul 2015 #51
Finally. pnwmom Jul 2015 #52
Bravo! I hope they look at some of the other low-post-count posters riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #53
Wella was a choir of Socks, other identities have also been ppr'd and some DUers sided with Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #54
BINGO. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #46
Your Position ignores the two big issue in marriage, who supports whom and who inherits what happyslug Jul 2015 #40
Are you at the right website? zappaman Jul 2015 #42
No, Polygamy Isn’t the Next Gay Marriage SidDithers Jul 2015 #44
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