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Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
13. Convictions don't matter: What is important
Sun Jul 26, 2015, 11:12 AM
Jul 2015

is that the individuals responsible, and the industry itself, learned their lesson. The American people see that and have the consolation that though both their personal finances, and that of the nation, took a devastating hit, the rule of law persevered. After nearly a decade of state and federal cooperation, and the appointment of several special prosecutors, and the Justice Department heading task forces assigned to the matter, we are now able to say we got to the bottom of matter.

Once the immunity deals were cut with the underlings everything came into sharp focus. It's amazing how out in the open everything was done. Truly a target rich environment for the squadrons of investigators tasked with getting to the bottom of things and identifying the culprits.

It was a lot of work, and expensive, but now of course the money is flowing in the other direction as the historic fines and restitution to investors and pension funds kicks in. We can now watch with some sense of satisfaction and pride as laws are passed undoing the senseless deregulation of the past.

They truly are a testament to our nation's best minds who labored to craft these comprehensive bills. And kudos to congress as these bills sail through the respective legislative bodies.

The crash was so very costly, and on a very human level, and that deepens all our satisfaction as we look to our future, and the future of the children, and know that we did our part in ensuring it doesn't happen again.

Now we can concentrate on doing something for all the victims of pension funds that couldn't make it over the hump and had to cannibalize themselves during the downturn. With the economy on safe footing we can try to undo the great harm to those starting out their careers, and those too close to the end of theirs.



Edit: Since I'm not sure I'll ask; would this post be better with the sarcasm tag?

Edit 2: Got feedback, adding the sarcasm tag, leaving the first edit so as to keep the context for the reply.

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The very best lack of law enforcement money can buy. Vincardog Jul 2015 #1
K&R'd. Wish I could do more – snot Jul 2015 #2
K&R..... daleanime Jul 2015 #3
He has no business being a lawyer jberryhill Jul 2015 #4
Exactly! Indydem Jul 2015 #5
How dare BHO appoint a fox to guard the hen house. I am guessing that if a Republicon rhett o rick Jul 2015 #23
laws that don't exist FlatBaroque Jul 2015 #40
There is practicing law and then there is practicing law Armstead Jul 2015 #9
Yeah, he should do DUI's and slip and falls jberryhill Jul 2015 #12
You sound like a Reublican go after "Trial Lawyers" Armstead Jul 2015 #14
There are plenty of qualified judges and law professors former9thward Jul 2015 #47
THIS hifiguy Jul 2015 #50
most judges have worked in high profile law firms..... msanthrope Jul 2015 #54
So, a US federal judge... jberryhill Jul 2015 #55
So it is impossible for a law prof or judge to become DOJ chief? former9thward Jul 2015 #58
If only Enron had waited a few years they too could have been bailed out and scot free. L0oniX Jul 2015 #6
Revolving Door is right. Octafish Jul 2015 #7
Most people who leave the private sector to serve their country return... George II Jul 2015 #8
And that's why politicians should not look to the same old Cronies to fill positions Armstead Jul 2015 #10
The real question is.... yourout Jul 2015 #11
Maybe so, but Eric Holder didn't serve "his country" he served the Wall Street Gangsters and rhett o rick Jul 2015 #24
Convictions don't matter: What is important Babel_17 Jul 2015 #13
Yes it could use a sarcasm tag. You're too close to what some people say Armstead Jul 2015 #15
Thank you (nt) Babel_17 Jul 2015 #17
Shame on Barak Obama.. sendero Jul 2015 #16
Shame on those that would troll yet another black man Democratic Party leader doing all he could in the face of Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #18
Criticism of Holder has nothing to do with his race. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #21
Accepted. What about amnesia? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #29
The DOJ had a blank check Babel_17 Jul 2015 #22
If by "blank cheque" you mean "Black Magic JuJu Sticks", to hell with burden and standard of proof, then I agree. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #28
Obama to Bankers: I'm Standing 'Between You and the Pitchforks' Babel_17 Jul 2015 #35
If Politico reporters are reporting a single sentence of Obama verbatim it must be true?? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #36
"confirmed by ABC News with industry sources" was in my link Babel_17 Jul 2015 #37
Instead of trying desperately to discredit those that present evidence against Holder, rhett o rick Jul 2015 #44
How desparate are those that see any criticism of Holder as racism. He did all he could to rhett o rick Jul 2015 #26
It's similar to saying that any criticism of Hillary is because she's female mindwalker_i Jul 2015 #31
I find that mildly amusing. zeemike Jul 2015 #32
Ditto - serious cognitive dissonance (sic)...and massive amnesia. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #33
I agree with the cognitive dissonance but would add authoritarian worship. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #45
Wrong. lark Jul 2015 #43
true heaven05 Jul 2015 #19
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Someone on Redditt claimed that Enthusiast Jul 2015 #20
A link from the comments section Babel_17 Jul 2015 #25
Thank you. Some great quotes there. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #41
Actually Holder tried and failed prosecuting individuals. He did win a number of cases against Hoyt Jul 2015 #27
Every once in a while on the DU, one finds a nugget of truth ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #38
Or not dreamnightwind Jul 2015 #56
I'm always interested in new information ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #57
Sorry I had missed your reply, here is some info dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #59
Wow so the oP didn't even try to find out treestar Jul 2015 #51
I will give him credit for his work on sentencing reform and drug policy. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #30
I would love to see some sources for the information that he and Obama reformed rhett o rick Jul 2015 #39
Andrew Ross Sorkin: Pulling Back the Curtain on Fraud Inquiries Babel_17 Jul 2015 #34
Wall Streeets lawyer, hand picked by Obama to protect what mattered the most to him. lark Jul 2015 #42
In his defense, Holder did prosecute several state-licensed MMJ growers. Scuba Jul 2015 #46
In terms of rank, rancid, open corruption, hifiguy Jul 2015 #48
Definitely an epic fail. The DOJ has been a do nothing agency since 2008. mmonk Jul 2015 #49
"Holder leaves office having been far outclassed by the Bush administration even in prosecuting rhett o rick Jul 2015 #52
What made Bush's DOJ bad had to do more with executive power. mmonk Jul 2015 #53
Yes. It's interesting that the Bush/Cheney handlers carved out such power rhett o rick Aug 2015 #61
....! Good Read... KoKo Aug 2015 #60
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