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snappyturtle

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305. Thank you. I grew up in a family which had guns. My dad was in law
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 07:46 PM
Aug 2015

enforcement and my brother an avid hunter. My ex- was a trap shooter and gun lover....a very responsible one. Consequently I have experienced responsible ownership that never harmed anyone. I am not afraid of guns. I have always had other things that have had to come first. Now it's my turn. This old lady is going to buy a .38 revolver for my protection. I live alone and in the country. If anyone has a problem with that they are welcome to offer suggestions of what I would do with a home invader. Just askin'

I think we are fast approaching the day when people start publicly advocating for a repeal of the 2A LonePirate Aug 2015 #1
It is up to us marym625 Aug 2015 #3
exactly! huhu Aug 2015 #136
There will be a tipping point. onehandle Aug 2015 #6
A politician that advocates for repeal of the Second Amendment TeddyR Aug 2015 #9
Areas or cities within states maybe...... AnPak Aug 2015 #18
Twenty years ago, a national politician would never have supported marriage equality. LonePirate Aug 2015 #26
Outstanding response! CrispyQ Aug 2015 #35
Marriage equality was lancer78 Aug 2015 #143
The historic trend is to grant rights not restrict them hack89 Aug 2015 #153
Well TeddyR Aug 2015 #160
Even if that were the case, what would repeal accomplish? Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #15
Repeal opens the door to future actions. LonePirate Aug 2015 #22
You do realize that it takes only 13 states to nullify any change to the BoR? GGJohn Aug 2015 #169
There have been more firearms sold in the last six years Chuuku Davis Aug 2015 #180
A smaller percentage of the population is buying more guns than ever. LonePirate Aug 2015 #223
And you can prove that with stats I assume? GGJohn Aug 2015 #225
It wouldn't even do that. The bill of rights confers no rights. Repealing it removes none. X_Digger Aug 2015 #190
I concur. Given the linguistic construction of the amendment... Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #193
sure. that's why it's a national problem. I live in CT and could easily get to another CTyankee Aug 2015 #265
I would piss off a bunch of people I know...... Hotler Aug 2015 #314
That's what anti-gun folks have been saying since the Newtown massacre. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #101
That's because no prominent figure on the left is willing to start the discussion. LonePirate Aug 2015 #106
Well the threadstarter doesn't care what anyone thinks. Is that a discussion, closeupready Aug 2015 #119
Is the OP a high profile politician already in office or seeking election? LonePirate Aug 2015 #121
I don't think that's true after Newtown. aikoaiko Aug 2015 #141
how shameful! CTyankee Aug 2015 #144
No prominent figure on the Left is willing to commit political suicide. MicaelS Aug 2015 #150
Try to change the Democratic Party platform first if you can hack89 Aug 2015 #178
LOL yeah right Don Lemon Aug 2015 #236
You are dreaming. RiffRandell Aug 2015 #245
I don't think so RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #284
Kick. Agschmid Aug 2015 #2
Thank you marym625 Aug 2015 #4
20 dead schoolchildren in Sandy Hook didn't do it gratuitous Aug 2015 #5
Nah this is America. Agschmid Aug 2015 #7
There are lots of guns but few gun owners. Only 32% of households have guns. flamin lib Aug 2015 #10
32% of households Runningdawg Aug 2015 #17
Paranoia strikes deep . . . flamin lib Aug 2015 #19
Yup. Agschmid Aug 2015 #23
It's NOT paranoia, it's *precaution*... ANYONE can call and say they are Joe Blow conducting a poll Ghost in the Machine Aug 2015 #131
We've discussed this precise point in the past. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #135
Asking a stranger on the telephone if they have a gun in their house is kind of like the band leader Aug 2015 #140
Come on now, you're a kook if you think it's 64%. It's probably more like 40% though. MillennialDem Aug 2015 #147
As a gun dealer yourself sarisataka Aug 2015 #28
Most people I know own guns. former9thward Aug 2015 #49
Anecdotes don't prove anything. I only know one person with a gun. MillennialDem Aug 2015 #149
And figures pulled out of thin air don't prove anything either. former9thward Aug 2015 #165
Polls/surveys. There is probably some underreporting of data, but likely not as much as people MillennialDem Aug 2015 #170
Anyone who would say they own a gun former9thward Aug 2015 #172
They could think it's a robber who is trying to target houses without guns. It could be people who MillennialDem Aug 2015 #176
And yours is too. former9thward Aug 2015 #248
Yeah but I generally don't put much stock in speculation (which is why I trust the polls well enough MillennialDem Aug 2015 #253
You have given no evidence. former9thward Aug 2015 #292
No, you only know of one person willing to admit they own a gun. eom. GGJohn Aug 2015 #171
Oh for fuck's sake, I think my in laws would tell me if they own guns, I know my 93 year old MillennialDem Aug 2015 #173
So those are the only people you know? eom. GGJohn Aug 2015 #175
Pretty much. I'm pretty boring. Oh also I'm pretty sure my wife/partner doesn't have one MillennialDem Aug 2015 #177
Ok, so you know about 10 people, GGJohn Aug 2015 #182
I trust polls/surveys with relative accuracy. Another good indicator is younger people are MillennialDem Aug 2015 #183
That doesn't answer my question. GGJohn Aug 2015 #186
Yes MillennialDem Aug 2015 #203
That fucking piece of shit Alex Jones said that all mass shootings are staged. Initech Aug 2015 #29
sad, horrible fact marym625 Aug 2015 #34
the media will just go "I'm sorry my face got in the way of your fist again" MisterP Aug 2015 #43
Thank you, well said. greatlaurel Aug 2015 #70
If it weren't for the NRA's control over our Congress we would have achieved gun CTyankee Aug 2015 #263
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #317
Well it's a free country. You're free to leave. Free to lobby for change, too. closeupready Aug 2015 #8
At this point there are too many guys with too many issues mythology Aug 2015 #12
I don't think discussions over race help matters. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #14
"Wait for evidence on this guy and his issues" Spider Jerusalem Aug 2015 #16
Well said! zappaman Aug 2015 #21
Yup. Agschmid Aug 2015 #25
yep you nailed it nt steve2470 Aug 2015 #32
word. KG Aug 2015 #40
Prohibitionism. It's so-o-o-o EZ. Works every time. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #58
The gun buy back program worked pretty well TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #273
I think authorities there concede less than a third have been "bought back" Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #285
+100 marym625 Aug 2015 #61
"The real problem is mental illness!" SecularMotion Aug 2015 #117
Ain't that the truth. truebluegreen Aug 2015 #241
+ a million nt laundry_queen Aug 2015 #233
You forgot SSRIs and other anit-depressants and the ones people snappyturtle Aug 2015 #303
Why? marym625 Aug 2015 #36
Because you are not the boss of anyone except yourself. closeupready Aug 2015 #47
Great response marym625 Aug 2015 #55
Not unless it was a water pistol. closeupready Aug 2015 #57
bullshit marym625 Aug 2015 #94
Whatever. closeupready Aug 2015 #95
yes closeupready olddots Aug 2015 #249
By the time you guys manage to ban guns, you won't be able to walk down the street the band leader Aug 2015 #11
It's called a bad ideology learned well. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #13
yeah. That makes all kinds of sense marym625 Aug 2015 #37
The gun industry ought to be giving you guys sales commissions the band leader Aug 2015 #51
Yeah, that's all because of people who are sick to death of this bullshit. marym625 Aug 2015 #59
You just keep on fighting the good fight then. the band leader Aug 2015 #83
proves my point, not yours marym625 Aug 2015 #91
Whatever helps you sleep at night. the band leader Aug 2015 #97
It's racism that brought gun numbers up Politicalboi Aug 2015 #82
you keep on hoping for that day then. keep up the good fight. the band leader Aug 2015 #84
We never should have elected a black guy jberryhill Aug 2015 #128
You have no idea what you're talking about and that is why your fail is so epic. the band leader Aug 2015 #138
I would like to feel free to not worry how many people are glinda Aug 2015 #20
EXACTLY! marym625 Aug 2015 #38
So true laundry_queen Aug 2015 #237
I like my rights...and don't care what anyone thinks ileus Aug 2015 #24
except my way you don't have to miss the reporters marym625 Aug 2015 #42
Gun fanciers really don't care about conseqences if it threatens their access to Hoyt Aug 2015 #134
Yeah Hoyt, You pegged it. GGJohn Aug 2015 #158
You filled your fourth gun safe with AKs and ammo yet, GG? Did you notice even Walmart is going to Hoyt Aug 2015 #194
Maybe, maybe not, but it keeps you guessing. GGJohn Aug 2015 #195
Really not into gun nomenclature anymore. I grew up. Hoyt Aug 2015 #207
Good for you, GGJohn Aug 2015 #209
Thank you for that, Hoyt. marym625 Aug 2015 #280
Don't Repeal, amend. maxsolomon Aug 2015 #27
ok marym625 Aug 2015 #39
Hadn't seen that before Deny and Shred Aug 2015 #116
Yeah...no. beevul Aug 2015 #201
I worded it poorly Deny and Shred Aug 2015 #267
Ok. beevul Aug 2015 #287
Its the 'modern language' part Deny and Shred Aug 2015 #290
Ok... beevul Aug 2015 #291
Cool. Most thought provoking DU discussion in a while. Deny and Shred Aug 2015 #294
In order... beevul Aug 2015 #295
This message was self-deleted by its author beevul Aug 2015 #288
Here is the lawful definition of militia: Keefer Aug 2015 #137
Thanks, seen that many times before. maxsolomon Aug 2015 #146
I'm glad you know "well-regulated" Keefer Aug 2015 #167
It doesn't mean "uncontrolled" either. maxsolomon Aug 2015 #188
At the time it was written, Keefer Aug 2015 #205
I would argue maxsolomon Aug 2015 #297
Nah. Keefer Aug 2015 #298
I'm repeating what i've been told multiple times on DU maxsolomon Aug 2015 #300
So you are proving that the definition of "militia" is define in STATUTE ThoughtCriminal Aug 2015 #243
Heller vs. DC is not the end of this story. GGJohn Aug 2015 #174
One more liberal judge out of the 9 and it would have been decided differently. maxsolomon Aug 2015 #187
Hey, if that's what helps you sleep at night, GGJohn Aug 2015 #192
you know what? retrowire Aug 2015 #30
Thank you! marym625 Aug 2015 #41
I like the 2nd Amendment just fine but ... The Traveler Aug 2015 #31
that is more likely to happen marym625 Aug 2015 #44
You're so welcome The Traveler Aug 2015 #88
Awesome response marym625 Aug 2015 #92
I was going to say pretty much the same thing. Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #79
Exactly! The Traveler Aug 2015 #89
Here's the difference, GGJohn Aug 2015 #179
I see the difference Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #200
Driving a car IS a right. beevul Aug 2015 #202
I understand that Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #212
The difference.... beevul Aug 2015 #222
Licensing and training requirement are -generally- already constitutional branford Aug 2015 #213
Fair points Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #219
I think the first step is to diligently and effectively enforce branford Aug 2015 #224
I agree with you on enforcement Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #228
Don't believe all the talking points about the NRA. branford Aug 2015 #234
I'm not saying they are all-powerful Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #238
I'm open to training and a test, it depend on the details, GGJohn Aug 2015 #215
On the screening issue Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #221
False equivalence. beevul Aug 2015 #93
It's not an equivalence at all ... it is analogy The Traveler Aug 2015 #98
Sigh...fundamental concepts. beevul Aug 2015 #100
The demands of employment ... patience ... I'll get back to ya (n/t) The Traveler Aug 2015 #115
In short... beevul Aug 2015 #110
Your plan is???? Nt Logical Aug 2015 #33
It is not incumbent on an OP to present a plan for you to nitpick. maxsolomon Aug 2015 #46
Why would i have a plan for something I didn't say needed changed? nt Logical Aug 2015 #50
good point maxsolomon Aug 2015 #163
I'm reading different ideas here marym625 Aug 2015 #48
I have no problem with registering guns either. Just not sure it solves anything..... Logical Aug 2015 #53
not just registering marym625 Aug 2015 #74
How does insurance stop crime? hack89 Aug 2015 #104
It is not intended to stop crime. beevul Aug 2015 #107
Is this a license to carry, or simply to own? N/t beevul Aug 2015 #108
own. marym625 Aug 2015 #109
Thats what I thought. N/t beevul Aug 2015 #111
No. eom. GGJohn Aug 2015 #185
I worry more about street crime and not safeinOhio Aug 2015 #80
As well you should. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #87
Good point. Nt Logical Aug 2015 #242
You and others really don't understand how insurance works or the effects of such a policy. branford Aug 2015 #133
Excellent post, thanks. MicaelS Aug 2015 #161
How do you figure? marym625 Aug 2015 #254
The NRA is a broker/vendor of insurance concerning firearms, branford Aug 2015 #258
Handguns and Long Guns need to be differentiated in this discussion. vkkv Aug 2015 #45
I can understand that marym625 Aug 2015 #54
The NRA is a terrorist organization. vkkv Aug 2015 #72
Yep. exactly marym625 Aug 2015 #73
The NRA is a terrorist organization? GGJohn Aug 2015 #211
And there is a good reason for that. -none Aug 2015 #81
And you don't distinguish between people that misuse guns and people that don't. beevul Aug 2015 #210
There are people out there that honestly believe ISIS in coming from Mexico. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #52
just proves we need Bernie Sanders marym625 Aug 2015 #63
And what is Bernie's plan Andy823 Aug 2015 #239
I thought Sandy Hook was the moment for a change. Sadly, no. nt thereismore Aug 2015 #56
very sadly marym625 Aug 2015 #64
Never owned a gun in my life. Never will. hifiguy Aug 2015 #60
same here marym625 Aug 2015 #65
my sentiments also, marym625....... :-( secondwind Aug 2015 #62
Thank you marym625 Aug 2015 #66
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #67
Yep those Sandy hook victims were selfish and the theatergoers and so on... Katashi_itto Aug 2015 #68
Wut? hifiguy Aug 2015 #69
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #78
Ask me if I give a shit. marym625 Aug 2015 #71
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #77
Yep marym625 Aug 2015 #90
Exactly, they prefer their guns to every other right, especially life. greatlaurel Aug 2015 #99
well said marym625 Aug 2015 #102
Her body, her choice. And your body, ALSO her choice, while she's at it, I guess. closeupready Aug 2015 #96
agreed. but the 2a is misinterpreted by the nra and gun lovers samsingh Aug 2015 #75
"murdered by guns" - you mean as opposed to murder by knives, bludgeoning, or drunks in cars? jonno99 Aug 2015 #85
Less guns always means less murders overall. laundry_queen Aug 2015 #240
not going after guns - after the gun culture samsingh Aug 2015 #283
I think your concern is still misplaced. The problem jonno99 Aug 2015 #286
American culture is not more violent maxsolomon Aug 2015 #299
Because the its the culture that stands in the way of going after guns.N/T beevul Aug 2015 #293
maybe not going after, but certainly reducing their efficacy. samsingh Aug 2015 #296
completely agree marym625 Aug 2015 #86
There is no question that these deaths were horrible, but a little perspective is helpful. jonno99 Aug 2015 #76
There are many laws against drunk drivers marym625 Aug 2015 #112
There are many laws against shooting people.... Adrahil Aug 2015 #127
Could be wrong, but haven't drunk driving deaths gone down a lot since the 70s? MillennialDem Aug 2015 #154
As have homicides. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #197
As have firearms deaths, GGJohn Aug 2015 #208
Why do you throw in the suicide statistic? MillennialDem Aug 2015 #226
Because they're part of the FBI's UCR on firearm deaths. GGJohn Aug 2015 #227
No marym625 Aug 2015 #252
Nope back at you. Adrahil Aug 2015 #261
Unbelievable marym625 Aug 2015 #272
and yet the homicide rate keeps decreasing. n/t Statistical Aug 2015 #332
and yet "accidental" shootings, doesn't marym625 Aug 2015 #333
Well that has also declined by roughly half over the last 20 years. Statistical Aug 2015 #336
Actually, yes, accidental shootings are down, per CDC's Wisqars. X_Digger Aug 2015 #337
k&r CharlotteVale Aug 2015 #103
Thank you! marym625 Aug 2015 #113
That's nice. nt hack89 Aug 2015 #105
yes, it is marym625 Aug 2015 #114
If you reject other people's thoughts, don't you basically reject democracy? HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #118
She doesn't care, apparently. All that matters is what SHE thinks. closeupready Aug 2015 #120
I support her frustration, but I think she hasn't thought this thru the implications of her comments HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #123
I agree, but when I tried to engage her upthread, closeupready Aug 2015 #126
I think her irrational/emotional response is common. But it's hyperbolic. HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #130
what? marym625 Aug 2015 #122
No, I think I am not so very wrong. I respect you, but I think you need to breathe. HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #125
I'm sorry but the idea that disagreeing with the current marym625 Aug 2015 #216
Good god where do you come up with this nonsense? beevul Aug 2015 #129
Crystal clear,huh? marym625 Aug 2015 #145
My position was arrived at through much research. N/T beevul Aug 2015 #191
I live in Moneta. phylny Aug 2015 #124
nope marym625 Aug 2015 #148
Starting a thread on an internet message board with "I don't care what anyone thinks..." Snobblevitch Aug 2015 #132
nope. it shows both knowledge of the situation marym625 Aug 2015 #151
So how do we ban guns? JT1979 Aug 2015 #155
no where did I say to ban guns. marym625 Aug 2015 #259
You keep telling yourself that Snobblevitch Aug 2015 #229
I stated I don't care what anyone thinks about their right to own guns. marym625 Aug 2015 #260
You have stated that you don't care what anyone thinks about their right to own guns. Snobblevitch Aug 2015 #266
What? marym625 Aug 2015 #274
You're moving the goalposts. Snobblevitch Aug 2015 #281
That graphic is very specific. Lizzie Poppet Aug 2015 #289
I have a right to life madokie Aug 2015 #139
Thank you! marym625 Aug 2015 #152
I spent 24 months in country, and I do own guns GGJohn Aug 2015 #214
Your subjective preferences have no bearing on my rights. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #142
The twisted marym625 Aug 2015 #157
How has my owning guns impeded your's or anyone else's rights? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #159
You wont get an answer to that one. TampaAnimusVortex Aug 2015 #270
Thank you. I grew up in a family which had guns. My dad was in law snappyturtle Aug 2015 #305
Dontcha know a dead unarmed victim is morally superior to a live armed one? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #312
Bullshit. beevul Aug 2015 #196
Yep, and we dont even have to do away with the 2nd, all we have to do is read it, randys1 Aug 2015 #156
What exactly is the militia and how is it "nessesary to the security of a free state"? the band leader Aug 2015 #162
That is absolutely incorrect TeddyR Aug 2015 #168
I don't care what you or anyone thinks about my RKBA. GGJohn Aug 2015 #164
Unfortunately HassleCat Aug 2015 #166
no, it's political organizing for a better presidential candidate who is brave enough to CTyankee Aug 2015 #181
A couple problems HassleCat Aug 2015 #184
well, we sure had a great deal to do with helping win WWII. We went from an CTyankee Aug 2015 #262
I agree, however... deathrind Aug 2015 #189
I Thank you marym625 Aug 2015 #255
This is a great list. I would add phylny Aug 2015 #257
Ban all guns!! n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2015 #198
Absolutely no problem with that. marym625 Aug 2015 #256
Fuck giving in to rapists, muggers and strongarm fucksticks seveneyes Aug 2015 #199
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #204
Never. Going. To. Happen. Kang Colby Aug 2015 #206
that is some really fucked up stuff marym625 Aug 2015 #251
Only In The USA colsohlibgal Aug 2015 #217
Very few citizens own military grade weapons, those were outlawed in 86 except for the ones GGJohn Aug 2015 #220
No, it isn't. beevul Aug 2015 #230
+100 marym625 Aug 2015 #246
Smug shit is all good until you are overpowered due to your own choice seveneyes Aug 2015 #218
This message was self-deleted by its author Township75 Aug 2015 #231
wrong but thanks for your thoughts. marym625 Aug 2015 #250
So are you going to burst into republican homes and take their guns from them ? Township75 Aug 2015 #232
Hey there Town! beevul Aug 2015 #235
Hey to you too Township75 Aug 2015 #269
tell me where I said anything about banning guns. marym625 Aug 2015 #275
"I don't care what anyone thinks" seveneyes Aug 2015 #244
ridiculous response. marym625 Aug 2015 #276
Trying for 5? Javaman Aug 2015 #279
Learn some history Omnith Aug 2015 #247
Fine. Let's let people have all the muskets they want. CTyankee Aug 2015 #264
I'm down with that. +10000 marym625 Aug 2015 #282
While we're at it, GGJohn Aug 2015 #306
Quill pens are also OK. Otherwise, the First Amendment doesn't apply friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #311
Funny how they always want to apply the firearms in use during colonial times GGJohn Aug 2015 #313
I'm well aware of the history of this country, marym625 Aug 2015 #277
Would you hold the rest of the Constitution to the same standard that you would apply... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #310
of course marym625 Aug 2015 #315
This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #320
So what are you doing to change it, aside from posting on the Internet? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #321
I'm REALLY sick of this question marym625 Aug 2015 #323
"I'm positive I'm doing more than you" What has that "doing" achieved,... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #324
Why, exactly, is "friendly" part of your moniker? marym625 Aug 2015 #325
You are free to ignore any and all of my questions, as well as any and of all my other posts friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #326
I don't alert marym625 Aug 2015 #328
And yet you talk as if you're unaware that it restricts only government. beevul Aug 2015 #327
sigh. marym625 Aug 2015 #329
This message was self-deleted by its author olddots Aug 2015 #322
I am so fucking sick of this. alarimer Aug 2015 #268
Oh, they'll just come back and tell you about that "pesky" 2nd Amendment... CTyankee Aug 2015 #271
False premise. beevul Aug 2015 #316
couldn't agree more marym625 Aug 2015 #278
The toy, I mean gun, no longer has a positive outcome when comparing deaths to randys1 Aug 2015 #301
I love that marym625 Aug 2015 #302
Great point randys1 Aug 2015 #304
Calling a gun a toy shows your lack of knowledge of firearms. eom. GGJohn Aug 2015 #308
Despite your little rant, GGJohn Aug 2015 #307
No. I *will* keep talking about the Second (and First, Fourth, Fifth, Fourteenth, etc) Amendment(s) friendly_iconoclast Aug 2015 #309
Negative ghost rider. beevul Aug 2015 #318
FYI...In Ontario, Canada you can actually own handguns. roamer65 Aug 2015 #319
Yup TeddyR Aug 2015 #330
I agree. that's a big part of the problem. marym625 Aug 2015 #331
I was honored to give this recommendation # 100 n/t Mira Aug 2015 #334
Cool! Thank you! eom marym625 Aug 2015 #335
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