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sabrina 1

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18. I think they are not familiar with the movement, that is what I have
Mon May 21, 2012, 05:00 PM
May 2012

noticed about those who conflate police violence with the protesters. Maybe they don't want to be familiar with it, which is fine. But they should not expect not to be corrected when they produce false information. Fortunately today it is difficult for the police, eg, and they know it, to lie too much. The initial organizers prepared for this by advising everyone to carry cameras and by having their own media.

Those plans were proven to be effective last week in the first two OWS cases brought to court when the cops blatantly lied under oath, only to be outed by the video and photographs provided by the citizen journalists. Both cases were dismissed.

Which is why the cops tried to get laws passed making it illegal to photograph them. They failed, so far thankfully. We owe a lot to the lawyers from the NLG and from other Civil Liberties groups who keep fighting the lies. And to those who got the NDAA amendment declared unconstitutional last week. I often wonder what condition this country would be in if it were not for such people, and for the protesters themselves.

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Push poll. UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #1
I thought about adding Cesar Chavez, but it's a little nuanced for most. Robb May 2012 #2
Your implication is that OWS is trying to achieve something UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #10
Non-violence usually works. But not always. MannyGoldstein May 2012 #3
LOL. Then they laugh at you, then they fight you, eh? Robb May 2012 #4
Obviously, extreme situations like the rise of Nazi Germany call for violence, but boxman15 May 2012 #5
More Malcolm: KamaAina May 2012 #6
Where's the dingbat option? KamaAina May 2012 #7
Both are equal. Arctic Dave May 2012 #8
The correct approach is always the one that wins 4th law of robotics May 2012 #9
"The correct approach is always the one that wins." UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #12
Ghandi vs. the Nazis: "The Last Article" by Harry Turtledove Johnny Rico May 2012 #20
A good short story 4th law of robotics May 2012 #24
Faulty Premise, Sir The Magistrate May 2012 #11
And there you go Your Honor...... socialist_n_TN May 2012 #25
This is why we vote. Major Hogwash May 2012 #13
OWS is based on Ghandi's philosophy and they have adhered to those principles. sabrina 1 May 2012 #14
The thing they've stressed before every protest UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #15
I think they are not familiar with the movement, that is what I have sabrina 1 May 2012 #18
I was represented by the National Lawyers Guild UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #19
They are real heroes. I am glad you were represented by them. And the fact that they were available sabrina 1 May 2012 #23
. Go Vols May 2012 #16
Shays was a well known anarchist. UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #17
I'll side with Malcolm since his quote doesn't play the "magic bullet" game. TheKentuckian May 2012 #21
they both had their crusades finished off by violence. provis99 May 2012 #22
Yes, but wouldn't it be nice if they hadn't RZM May 2012 #26
All things being equal: non-violent wins RobertEarl May 2012 #27
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