General Discussion

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)

41. Well, this does not work at all for those with certain genes.

Mon Sep 7, 2015, 08:15 AM

Sep 2015

So if lifestyle modification, including exercise or aspirin, doesn't lower lipids within six months, a patient would be insane not to take statins if the patient can tolerate them.

Studies have already borne out that taking statins while following an unhealthy lifestyle will not produce as much benefit as taking statins and modifying lifestyle, but this study ignores the reality that those at most acute risk for cardiovascular disease are those that have genes that predispose them to it!

In short, this is stupid and grossly misleading. "Can be" doesn't say anything about the outcome for a particular patient. The reality is that those who can drop lipids via lifestyle modification were never those who were at acute risk for CV disease in the first place!

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

47 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Mediterranean diet 'as effective as statins' in reducing heart attack risk [View all] malaise Sep 2015 OP

All that plus it's absolutely delicious! Arugula Latte Sep 2015 #1

Yep malaise Sep 2015 #4

And if you're already not smoking and have a reasonably healthy diet ... Igel Sep 2015 #11

Yeah well, but who wants to cook instead of popping a pill?!1 n/t UTUSN Sep 2015 #2

Me malaise Sep 2015 #3

I was just being smart-alecky/not snarky. Sorry. But I was reminded of my now "fired" doctor: UTUSN Sep 2015 #45

So, be sure to order the Filet-O-Fish. Got it. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2015 #5

We eat a lot of fish malaise Sep 2015 #7

not everybody has control over what they eat, and not everybody mopinko Sep 2015 #6

True but many who have control don't even attempt to change malaise Sep 2015 #8

yeah, like my ex who was the cook. still mopinko Sep 2015 #14

True but the doctors seem to be more concerned with the side effects of the medication malaise Sep 2015 #18

True, that Populist_Prole Sep 2015 #37

Note tomatoes being described as Mediterranean. One of the many outcomes of the voyage of Columbus. arcane1 Sep 2015 #9

I love tomatoes malaise Sep 2015 #13

Smart! :) I can enjoy tomatoes in any state but their natural one. arcane1 Sep 2015 #17

That's amazing malaise Sep 2015 #19

Me too! Tipperary Sep 2015 #40

Me too! A nice garden tomato salad w/ EV Olive Oil and smirkymonkey Sep 2015 #44

Hummus is one of the most perfect foods on Earth. onehandle Sep 2015 #10

Now I'm hungry Person 2713 Sep 2015 #15

It is nice food - I'm always amazed at how malaise Sep 2015 #16

Agree. I had hummus for the first time back in 1985 or so... SMC22307 Sep 2015 #23

Love that stuff abelenkpe Sep 2015 #31

Yum! I'm making that tomorrow for lunch. hedda_foil Sep 2015 #35

Looks like I'm already eating a mostly Mediterranean diet by being a vegetarian IVoteDFL Sep 2015 #12

I love most peas malaise Sep 2015 #21

I am the fourth girlfriend in our group. tavernier Sep 2015 #20

Some guys have all the luck malaise Sep 2015 #22

You'd think so, but not tavernier Sep 2015 #26

I have found that men don't handle giving up work that well malaise Sep 2015 #27

Agree with you on that. 840high Sep 2015 #29

My Dad lived to 94 and he 840high Sep 2015 #28

Am I missing the diet? Texasgal Sep 2015 #24

Yep malaise Sep 2015 #25

Great chart! SoapBox Sep 2015 #30

That's how I was before I had kids Nevernose Sep 2015 #32

Thanks malaise Sep 2015 #38

I try to avoid grains and most other carbs. Fuddnik Sep 2015 #33

Do cannolis count? trackfan Sep 2015 #34

I am skeptical about this LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #36

I've always held the opinion that the ones benefiting most from statin drugs are Vinca Sep 2015 #39

+1,000 malaise Sep 2015 #42

Well, this does not work at all for those with certain genes. Yo_Mama Sep 2015 #41

Like me, for example! DFW Sep 2015 #43

Yes, that's a vivid demonstration of reality. Yo_Mama Sep 2015 #46

I could live on hummus. Lyric Sep 2015 #47