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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. In addition, wealthy Southerners who couldn't produce "middle class"
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 02:39 PM
Oct 2015

goods right on their plantations preferred to purchase them from Europe, especially France, so that the southern middle class was just a fraction the size of the middle class up north. Plus, very little money spilled out of the wealthy plantations to farmers eking out livings on whatever land the big planters didn't want.

This preference for foreign goods and the plantation culture's contempt for northern culture, with a desire to dissociate their finer selves from its crass industrialism, were other big reasons for secession that blew up big time when the north instituted tariffs on imports to try to get the South to "buy American" factory goods. The fact that most couldn't afford even cheaper American goods was not considered by many of them, and was of course totally irrelevant to the plantation owners.

You bet the confederacy was and is a con job -- BUT, even so it was mostly a self con, same as today. Abe Lincoln wasn't even on the ballot in most states down here, but most of the majority who were not allowed to vote for or against him were very happy with that anyway.

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Or as another Southerner put it ... eppur_se_muova Oct 2015 #1
Took the words right out of my mouth iandhr Oct 2015 #14
Of course it was. And so was Jim Crow. yellowcanine Oct 2015 #2
PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #11
A variation of that game still works for the ultra wealthy getting many in the south to vote against GoneFishin Oct 2015 #3
Not just in the south ... TBF Oct 2015 #8
Are you sure they are voting against their own interests RATHER THAN Stevepol Oct 2015 #15
No I am not sure. Good point. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #19
We used to have a poster on DU TBF Oct 2015 #20
Yep my nephew for example flygal Oct 2015 #27
You are correct, of course. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #18
I grew up in WI harun Oct 2015 #23
Most of our family farms are gone too - TBF Oct 2015 #25
Many years passed until an actual labor laws were passed for the common good of the nation mrdmk Oct 2015 #4
And the remnants of that exploitative system remain: JDPriestly Oct 2015 #9
This can't be right, it completely defies teh Trickle Down Major Nikon Oct 2015 #5
the masters of the universe ALWAYS use divide & conquer. poor white people see more black people. pansypoo53219 Oct 2015 #6
In addition, wealthy Southerners who couldn't produce "middle class" Hortensis Oct 2015 #7
It's sad but true that many people at the bottom of the pile will do anything to convince Joe Chi Minh Oct 2015 #10
He's Right: Most White People Did Not Benefit From Slavery NonMetro Oct 2015 #12
It's sad but true that many people at the bottom of the pile will do anything to convince Joe Chi Minh Oct 2015 #13
In memoriam: Joe Bageant, the poor man's Hunter S. Thompson. DinahMoeHum Oct 2015 #16
I feel no sympathy for middle and lower class whites who vote Republican YoungDemCA Oct 2015 #17
Think about the psychology at work - TBF Oct 2015 #21
So what? ibegurpard Oct 2015 #24
Basically, nothing has changed...a few own the wealth and have all the power... joeybee12 Oct 2015 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author mhatrw Oct 2015 #26
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