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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
7. from the transcript.....
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:59 PM
Oct 2015

KARL: Mary Mapes. And she worked with her principal, Dan Rather, to produce a smear on President Bush. This movie's named "Truth." It ought to be "The Anatomy of a Smear." Falsified documents from a source who changed his story, the documents that were not verified by CBS' own experts. I mean, it is a devastating example of journalism run amok. I would recommend before anybody go to see the movie, that they google CBS, this is on CBS' web site. Their independent review panel on this incident, and read 30 pages, the 30-page summary of this report. It is devastating about the lack of journalistic integrity by these two individuals.

--snip---

ROVE: The documents said that George W. Bush had gone AWOL, that he had refused to take a flying exam and he had not shown up for National Guard duty. And it turned out that the documents were typed in a font that was not available on a typewriter in the 1960s when they were supposedly done, and were forgeries. They had the wrong abbreviations, they were set up wrong, they had signatures in the wrong place, and the author, the supposed author of these, supposedly typed them himself when his widow said he never typed. He didn't type.

WALLACE: Didn't Burkett, I am trying to remember, but didn't Burkett have some kind of a grievance against President Bush?

ROVE: Oh, sure. He was both -- he had both grievances about his treatment at the National Guard that occurred before Bush was president and before Bush was governor, and he was also a left winger who had a bias against Bush and was trying to ingratiate himself with the Kerry campaign. It was a tissue of lies from start to finish. The 30-page summary in a CBS report is devastating. In fact, CBS, which ran this as part of "60 Minutes," issued a statement about the movie. It's worth reading.

WALLACE: Wait, wait. I'm going to read the statement, because one of the things you got to understand -- you may be wondering what this is all about, but this is going to be a big movie. Robert Redford, Cate Blanchett, it comes out on Friday. At the time, Dan Rather, who first apologized on the air, and later left CBS, then he sued CBS and said CBS' corporate interests had forced them to go against the movie and to go against him. He sued, the case was thrown out summarily by a judge. CBS now says this about its own report and its own reporters and the movie -- "the film tries to turn gross errors of journalism and judgment into acts of heroism and martyrdom."

Get thee to the greatest page malaise Oct 2015 #1
I will try to find a clip of Karl. grasswire Oct 2015 #2
video here wheniwasincongress Oct 2015 #4
thank you! nt grasswire Oct 2015 #5
Thanks for the link... Thespian2 Oct 2015 #68
oh, if only... alterfurz Oct 2015 #110
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Oct 2015 #6
Karl, Jeb and Hillary billhicks76 Oct 2015 #29
The Bushes are war criminals who stole elections and have quite possibly assassinated people. yardwork Oct 2015 #72
I agree. It's all for "show". Duval Oct 2015 #103
I never underestimate politicians. yardwork Oct 2015 #109
You're Wrong billhicks76 Oct 2015 #106
And you know this how? I'm listening. yardwork Oct 2015 #108
I've never known a bully who can handle the truth. n/t Binkie The Clown Oct 2015 #3
Bullies are actually cowards. When confronted they turn to jelly. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #78
from the transcript..... grasswire Oct 2015 #7
Did they put in the movie that the base that Dubya flew to did not have the kind of jet planes DhhD Oct 2015 #12
W tiptonic Oct 2015 #36
He can't even handle Segways or bikes! demwing Oct 2015 #51
Or snacks. Remember his snack-related injury? Dogs licked him for salt and helped revive him. Mabus Oct 2015 #120
If Bush flew, it wasn't in any airplane demwing Oct 2015 #121
But, but I seen him land one on that aircraft carrier deutsey Oct 2015 #54
See reply #77 on down in the tread. DhhD Oct 2015 #111
Karl Rove and his team successfully refocused attention away from Bush and his AWOL... MinM Oct 2015 #122
thank you grasswire Oct 2015 #124
npr: it effectively killed Dubya's TANG AWOL story MinM Oct 2015 #125
"Spotlight" on Great Journalism MinM Oct 2015 #126
I am really looking forward to seeing "Spotlight". I hope it will be in wide release here in Boston smirkymonkey Oct 2015 #127
Axis of Evil. zentrum Oct 2015 #8
Don't leave out Negropointe. Ilsa Oct 2015 #24
Agreed. He's one of them. zentrum Oct 2015 #35
Wait for it... Omaha Steve Oct 2015 #9
turd blossem bush awol? thats not the point! captainarizona Oct 2015 #10
excellent point grasswire Oct 2015 #22
It's one of the main tactics in the Rove playbook nxylas Oct 2015 #58
If I recall correctly, that document was never actually proved to be a 1monster Oct 2015 #83
Noted nxylas Oct 2015 #84
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #11
oooh I'll recommend that! flygal Oct 2015 #13
Is it too late to indict him? no_hypocrisy Oct 2015 #14
K and R..nt Stuart G Oct 2015 #15
K & R Can't wait for the movie! mountain grammy Oct 2015 #16
Same here malaise Oct 2015 #112
Rove needs to go to jail..... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #17
His bosses need to go to jail. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #18
Tony Blair is still in trouble. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #20
Our Dream Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #73
I would love... Rafale Oct 2015 #101
A more suspicious type than me might wonder if this inspired 60 Minutes' rough Obama interview. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2015 #19
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #21
fishing indeed mikehiggins Oct 2015 #23
alert results irisblue Oct 2015 #38
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #25
Is this about Bush's Vietnam war record or something else? Renew Deal Oct 2015 #26
what war record? Skittles Oct 2015 #27
I know Renew Deal Oct 2015 #28
a very good man's reputation was trashed because of orchestrated LIES Skittles Oct 2015 #30
Got it Renew Deal Oct 2015 #31
... Skittles Oct 2015 #32
He kept Houston safe from the Viet Cong. hobbit709 Oct 2015 #48
The F-102 was an interceptor. No danger Bush would ever have to outfly a MIG or SAM. leveymg Oct 2015 #77
like I protected Texas from Oklahoma Skittles Oct 2015 #118
It matters because the case was used to destroy Dan Rather's reputation starroute Oct 2015 #33
That makes sense Renew Deal Oct 2015 #34
variable width type setting (kerning) was uncommon to find on a typewriter back then 0rganism Oct 2015 #37
yes grasswire Oct 2015 #41
Exactly. It's exactly what Rove did to destroy the author of "Favorite Son" in 2000. hedda_foil Oct 2015 #43
and that author was *suicided* grasswire Oct 2015 #88
Precisely. I still have a copy that got onto shelves before the official release date. hedda_foil Oct 2015 #90
Hatfield-Rather: Dirty Tricks with different spins on the same theme .. MinM Oct 2015 #123
From Wikipedia Unknown Beatle Oct 2015 #96
The documents couldn't have been done on a computer starroute Oct 2015 #44
IBM Executive Typewriter baran Oct 2015 #45
That seemed to be exactly what happened. yardwork Oct 2015 #49
it was a freeper who first alerted on the docs, during the program airing grasswire Oct 2015 #92
I remember. I was reading DU that night. yardwork Oct 2015 #107
yes, that was quite a night nt grasswire Oct 2015 #116
I also think it was a Rovian trap deutsey Oct 2015 #53
The IBM Executive, the first proportional space typewriter, was introduced in 1944. MgtPA Oct 2015 #65
Thank you Marty McGraw Oct 2015 #74
I own an Olympia daisy-wheel typewriter that had a PS (proportional spacing) wheel colorado_ufo Oct 2015 #79
The secretary who generated those documents said plainly there were LIKE the ones she did KittyWampus Oct 2015 #57
That's the thing that I remember! HuskyOffset Oct 2015 #119
Bush has no Vietnam war record. grasswire Oct 2015 #40
I remember it Renew Deal Oct 2015 #47
The DUI and his history of drug addiction didn't matter because he was "saved." yardwork Oct 2015 #50
The same stuff they're now saying about Putin? nxylas Oct 2015 #75
The DUI story broke just before the 2000 election, not 2004. WillowTree Oct 2015 #62
I'm sure he is hoping no one is working on a screenplay about The Franklin Scandal tomm2thumbs Oct 2015 #39
ayep grasswire Oct 2015 #42
Or the Don Siegelman Story! n/t baran Oct 2015 #46
to be fair mercuryblues Oct 2015 #52
I will be watching this movie Gothmog Oct 2015 #55
karl doesn't care. Javaman Oct 2015 #56
Why Karl is scared: Texas ANG shows how bin Laden and Bush families came together for bidness. Octafish Oct 2015 #59
Bless. Your. Heart. Raster Oct 2015 #63
"House of Bush, House of Saud." hifiguy Oct 2015 #81
A keeper for my files. Thank you. And what about this one about W and Margie Shoedinger?: AikidoSoul Oct 2015 #97
I found a pdf file Margie Shoedinger vs GWB, but don't know how to post it AikidoSoul Oct 2015 #104
Very interesting... kentuck Oct 2015 #60
"Those who profess to favour freedom and yet deprecate agitation, Joe Chi Minh Oct 2015 #61
that quote........ grasswire Oct 2015 #100
Absolutely. Joe Chi Minh Oct 2015 #113
Why would he be afraid of this movie.......or any movie? WillowTree Oct 2015 #64
This will be excellent patsimp Oct 2015 #66
release date 16 october 2015 niyad Oct 2015 #67
Opens nationwide October 30. PADemD Oct 2015 #70
thank you. I have to call my local art house and ask when they are going to show it. niyad Oct 2015 #71
Bush was a coke head at the time which is why he skipped out on his flight readiness physical. cpompilo Oct 2015 #69
Why would Rove be scared? He got someone who could barely speak merrily Oct 2015 #76
One dumb war Bucky Oct 2015 #114
I think both wars were dumb. merrily Oct 2015 #115
Every time I think of or see KKKarl hifiguy Oct 2015 #80
Don't forget the video of George an Jeb picking up a kilos of cocaine..... Hotler Oct 2015 #82
Speaking of Barry Seal and his ties to..... Hotler Oct 2015 #85
The Republican Rasputin Rove The Wizard Oct 2015 #86
Happy to be the 200th rec. Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #87
You just got a shout-out from Thom Hartmann for this thread grasswire. way to go. nt Snotcicles Oct 2015 #89
really?? grasswire Oct 2015 #93
Yep, he read your op, and made comments about it. good job. nt Snotcicles Oct 2015 #95
EVERY ONE of us needs to see this when it opens. blm Oct 2015 #91
YES grasswire Oct 2015 #94
True political stories like Kill the Messenger always have corpmedia set against it - blm Oct 2015 #102
great idea. mnhtnbb Oct 2015 #98
Rove et al. deathrind Oct 2015 #99
Robert Redford is so awesome! Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #105
It has been reported that Karl Rove lied to imprison those that ran against him. He LIED. rladdi Oct 2015 #117
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