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L. Coyote

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31. The OP should read "Charnin says...." That does not make it true. Opposite is the case, NOT TRUE.
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 12:47 PM
Nov 2015

Ignore Richard Charnin. Charnin is wasting his time, running the same old flawed CVS model on yet another election and producing the same result as always because his method is flawed and not even real statistical analysis. Charnin is known for his conspiracy ideation.

I get tired of having to explain this over and over and over again to the uninformed and statistics-challenged world. In Republican dominated areas, the precincts are larger on average, so if you first sort by size, your sort produces the effect, and you have proven only that you can create a bias in the data by sorting it with a chosen criteria. It is a book selling trick, but I don't see a single statistician anywhere agreeing with such an obvious mistake.

America deserves verifiable & transparent electoral vote counts. It is shameful that we must still think Nov 2015 #1
Amen!! Stevepol Nov 2015 #6
"do we ever hear politicians speak out ..." ?? Not about B.S. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #51
I'm referring to speaking out about making election results transparent. think Nov 2015 #54
By "situation in Kansas" you mean the lawsuit. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #56
A real question Rilgin Nov 2015 #69
My criticism is the guy sorts the data by the criteria making the difference appear in the data L. Coyote Nov 2015 #72
still not understanding Rilgin Nov 2015 #80
this needs DOJ investigation, let's go! F'ing GOP wordpix Nov 2015 #62
No, all it needs is one minute of thinking, and it all falls apart. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #73
I think a good share of America doesn't give a crap. I don't think the Democratic Leadership rhett o rick Nov 2015 #84
I heard recently that California is working on voting machines that will have software JDPriestly Nov 2015 #89
Thank you. That sounds interesting. Will have to check into it. think Nov 2015 #92
Absolutely. tecelote Nov 2015 #95
And how do you propose we do that? Travis_0004 Nov 2015 #101
Paper ballots, hand counted, in public, cameras rolling, nothing less. Scuba Nov 2015 #2
I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree -- FULLY with each point. Stevepol Nov 2015 #11
Absolutely. avaistheone1 Nov 2015 #17
The only problem is getting those paper ballots in the ballot box from the precinct LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #20
Nothing's perfect, but methods of defrauding paper ballots... JHB Nov 2015 #50
Count posted on precinct door, with cameras rolling, SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #82
+1 Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #37
This seems pretty compelling Dem2 Nov 2015 #3
Exactly the opposite if you are trained in statistical analysis, then it is truly COMIC and tragic L. Coyote Nov 2015 #38
I don't understand what to heck you're talking about. Stevepol Nov 2015 #61
That makes 2 of us Dem2 Nov 2015 #65
If only it was only two ... L. Coyote Nov 2015 #68
I posted an article Dem2 Nov 2015 #71
Without a bit of analysis or, apparently, whose bidding you ar doing by spreading this. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #74
Ahhh, so I'm supposed to know that this analysis is incorrect Dem2 Nov 2015 #77
Did you search DU to read other threads about this person L. Coyote Nov 2015 #81
Shoot the messenger Dem2 Nov 2015 #83
Except "the pattern of the voting results are different from the pattern of results we would expect" L. Coyote Nov 2015 #66
How do you explain that Kentucky voted for a Republican governor by 9 points and then for JDPriestly Nov 2015 #91
I don't. I commented on part of the article, the CVS idea. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #94
Democratic leadership should be screaming about this, but.....Crickets. Dont call me Shirley Nov 2015 #4
precedent? heaven05 Nov 2015 #9
^^^ X2 ^^^ Omaha Steve Nov 2015 #12
There are probably a hundred other examples of equally preposterous results. Stevepol Nov 2015 #14
Brad is a journalist, not an election integrity investigator himself, a reporter L. Coyote Nov 2015 #34
thanks heaven05 Nov 2015 #59
I've followed LittleGirl Nov 2015 #93
flashback.. G_j Nov 2015 #15
They showed integrity and courage mountain grammy Nov 2015 #24
Coup is the correct term nt G_j Nov 2015 #26
A coup overthows the whole government usually. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #70
^^^^ THIS ^^^^ beerandjesus Nov 2015 #55
thank you heaven05 Nov 2015 #60
Heartbreaking. Democracy went out with a whimper.Who will fight to reinstate it? The Wielding Truth Nov 2015 #76
I believe you mean Catherine Harris? n/t aggiesal Nov 2015 #22
you are right heaven05 Nov 2015 #58
Katherine Harris..... Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #29
thanks heaven05 Nov 2015 #57
And not ONE Democratic Senator Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #35
Boxer joins challenge to Ohio's vote result L. Coyote Nov 2015 #41
2000 Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author csziggy Nov 2015 #67
Katherine Harris Raster Nov 2015 #88
like I said earlier heaven05 Nov 2015 #98
no worries. I responded to your post and at that time, I saw no others. Raster Nov 2015 #99
I remember everything you said heaven05 Nov 2015 #100
I hope this Delphinus Nov 2015 #5
It won't, pure BS. It is ignored for a reason, poppycock can't fly. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #43
Scary shit get the red out Nov 2015 #7
It's an integral part of rightward leaning personalities that winning by any means is ok. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #8
One wonders if the Justice Department has any jurisdiction? DFW Nov 2015 #10
Present them with anything credible, and they will do what they are supposed to. But this L. Coyote Nov 2015 #45
Well... MynameisBlarney Nov 2015 #13
Not a thing. Fuddnik Nov 2015 #39
Republicans cheat ... end of story Botany Nov 2015 #16
Yes, very disconcerting and in need of a real investigation, not in need of obfuscation L. Coyote Nov 2015 #46
As I suspected. Maineman Nov 2015 #18
regardless of the polling methods RussBLib Nov 2015 #19
But, but, but... 2naSalit Nov 2015 #23
I would have thought if they were going to cheat, yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #52
That's what electronic voting is for! Easy fraud. nt valerief Nov 2015 #21
I believe the GOP will have this perfected by the 2016 election mountain grammy Nov 2015 #25
Republicans are right & we need voter ID laws. HassleCat Nov 2015 #27
republicans lie, cheat and steal every day elmac Nov 2015 #28
Another stolen election zentrum Nov 2015 #30
The OP should read "Charnin says...." That does not make it true. Opposite is the case, NOT TRUE. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #31
So the analysis in the OP is the actual fraud. Bonx Nov 2015 #49
It matters not who screams FIRE in a smokey theatre L. Coyote Nov 2015 #53
the size of a precinct should not correlate i-should- be-working Nov 2015 #63
What were the EXIT polls in KY on the Gov race. That is the real tell. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #32
I looked for them myself. Couldn't locate any. pa28 Nov 2015 #85
Exit polls are sampling. After the count the stats are not inferential. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #86
Thanks. Oh well. SunSeeker Nov 2015 #87
Let me guess.. Central tabulators? lostnfound Nov 2015 #33
Some Florida charts and data here. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #48
We should bring in election observers Fritz Walter Nov 2015 #36
It is quite curious that losing candidates never seem to believe this Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #40
Candidates know better, they understand that this is just internet woo and booksellers at work. L. Coyote Nov 2015 #47
They can't beat us Faux pas Nov 2015 #42
It Happens Over And Over colsohlibgal Nov 2015 #64
This needs to get proof so hard even the the thugs can't deny Union Label Nov 2015 #75
KFE. Kentucky Fraud Election. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2015 #78
A bucket o' ballots... Blue Owl Nov 2015 #79
Ditto Wisconsin Pharaoh Nov 2015 #90
Time To Do Something About This billhicks76 Nov 2015 #96
Way passed time. lonestarnot Nov 2015 #97
Given the down ticket victories I suspected that this might be the case. blackspade Nov 2015 #102
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