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Divernan

(15,480 posts)
17. The better to wreak her revenge, my sweet!
Wed Dec 23, 2015, 09:40 AM
Dec 2015

You know, the woman who's Enemies List goes back to her years in Arkansas? And at the end of her 2008 failed campaign had that list upgraded, spreadsheeted and downloaded? It is comprised of fellow Democrats, of course.

Danger, Will Robinson!
Her administration would be like a Grimm fairy tale, writ large!

If revenge is a dish best served cold, than the Clintons are in a subzero frenzy of anticipation at the thought of gaining the power of the presidency.

Francis Bacon coined this 'revenge' proverb:

- A man that studieth revenge keeps his own wounds green.


The Godfather, 1969: Don Corleone nodded. "Revenge is a dish that tastes best when it is cold," he said.


Star Trek II, The Wrath of Kahn, 1982: Kirk, old friend, do you know the Klingon proverb, "Revenge is a dish best served cold"?


This Atlantic article from 2014 documents Hillary's thirst and need for revenge.

In the waning days of her 2008 campaign, staffers for Hillary Clinton put the final touches on a list of people they thought betrayed the candidate, and then ranked their level of betrayal. The problem with losing, however, is that its hard to exact any revenge.

In an excerpt from HRC: State Secrets and the Rebirth of Hillary Clinton, Politico's Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes outline the Clintons' tabulation of all of the campaign's many, many betrayals. Hillary's "Hit List," Politico calls it — an Excel spreadsheet delineating those people most and least loyal to Clinton as she unsuccessfully tried to hold off Barack Obama. According to the Politico excerpt, the Clinton camp was gleeful about the fate of some of those who'd failed to see the practical wisdom of endorsing her.


Years later, they would joke among themselves in harsh terms about the fates of folks they felt had betrayed them. “Bill Richardson: investigated; John Edwards: disgraced by scandal; Chris Dodd: stepped down,” one said to another. “Ted Kennedy,” the aide continued, lowering his voice to a whisper for the punch line, “dead.”

Those three are the exception. Allen and Parnes describe a ranking of loyalty from 1 to 7, with 1 being those most loyal to Hillary Clinton during the campaign. The 7s, those people who the Clintons felt betrayed her the most, were added to what "a Clintonworld source" "wouldn’t, of course, call … an enemies list." Regardless of what it's called, none of them seems to have suffered much from being given that low designation.

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Exactly what would happen! "a backdoor could equally be exploited by hackers and render RKP5637 Dec 2015 #1
Bill Clinton Wanted Backdoors in the 90s billhicks76 Dec 2015 #9
Yep, I remember that well. My hunch is a lot of backdoors already exist. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2015 #15
That's almost a 100% given. greytdemocrat Dec 2015 #43
we will be grappling with this for some time greenman3610 Dec 2015 #2
Just more bullshit pandering to the right wing and the surveillance state. Not good enough, Hillary. Scuba Dec 2015 #3
How come you didn't cite libertarian Edward Snowden in your headline? pnwmom Dec 2015 #4
Backdoor (aka key escrow) Clipper Chips and Skipjack encryption are a Bill Clinton era idea Paulie Dec 2015 #5
Snowden is no different from any other techie. You won't find a single one-- eridani Dec 2015 #6
Regardless of who's saying it, the idea of spending trillions of dollars on breaking encryption... Spider Jerusalem Dec 2015 #10
What a servile response Android3.14 Dec 2015 #16
Call it "Loyalty". I Call it "Blind Support". gordyfl Dec 2015 #32
Excellent question. Octafish Dec 2015 #33
Completely predictable that you would come down on the side of state power hueymahl Dec 2015 #26
Here's another example of why back doors and weak crypto is bad Paulie Dec 2015 #42
That's why they want to limit the debate's. To keep her thoughts to herself. bahrbearian Dec 2015 #7
Her Great Idea Is Create A Bigger Spy Machine? billhicks76 Dec 2015 #8
The better to wreak her revenge, my sweet! Divernan Dec 2015 #17
Kind of explains all the superdelegates endorsing her, bet they flip for Bernie peacebird Dec 2015 #27
Damn straight, Skippy! Divernan Dec 2015 #31
Please make this an OP. It goes to character, & how the C's operate peacebird Dec 2015 #44
Perhaps later today - already posted this you-know-where. Divernan Dec 2015 #47
Excellent! peacebird Dec 2015 #48
Darth Vader has lower negative ratings. Fuddnik Dec 2015 #35
She wants a naked blue guy? nxylas Dec 2015 #11
I find it amusing how politicians keep saying "give us the key," Oneironaut Dec 2015 #12
There were some things that troubled me about that... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #13
+100 nt n2doc Dec 2015 #14
Right? It's freaking crazy. raouldukelives Dec 2015 #22
I find this just chilling pengu Dec 2015 #18
Geez, I'm so old... Jerry442 Dec 2015 #19
yes Jerry442 90-percent Dec 2015 #23
Fascism sucked then and it sucks now. Divernan Dec 2015 #49
'Reader Supported News" ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #20
So you think her proposal is a good idea? ljm2002 Dec 2015 #28
Link to original Rolling Stone article: IDemo Dec 2015 #29
See, this is a good example of what I've said nyabingi Dec 2015 #21
Holy fuck - she sounds like a goddamn fascist! hueymahl Dec 2015 #24
Like her husband Hillary, hopes the party faithful won't notice when jalan48 Dec 2015 #25
How about a Manhattan project for: Kelvin Mace Dec 2015 #30
Poor choice of words again...associating the creation of nuclear weapons with a project to spy EndElectoral Dec 2015 #34
Well, I have heard "Manhattan Project" used Kelvin Mace Dec 2015 #37
Fo Sho! d_legendary1 Dec 2015 #39
I'd Vote for O'Malley gordyfl Dec 2015 #36
Considering the evidence that LEOs at all levels are as capable as non LEOS of tblue37 Dec 2015 #38
O'Malley vs Clinton on Privacy gordyfl Dec 2015 #40
I don't know how anyone can still lay claim to the label of "democrat" while pandering to corporate mother earth Dec 2015 #41
The Patriot Act - Which Librarian? gordyfl Dec 2015 #45
Another politician who wants to make policy where they have no knowledge. nt bemildred Dec 2015 #46
Locking mcar Dec 2015 #50
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