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Bluenorthwest

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73. If you 'believe' only you know that. If you demonstrate your belief through action, others see that.

Sat May 28, 2016, 08:02 AM

May 2016

It is the religious person who has the command upon them to not judge others, to check their own speck, to turn the other cheek, to offer love when given hate. Atheists do not claim to believe those commands of Jesus. If the 'believer' does not follow them, why would I think they believe them?

Jesus very specifically told his followers that they would be persecuted and mocked for following him and he told them that when this happens they must 'rejoice and be very glad' and that one is blessed when people make fun of you for your faith. So one can ask why if the 'believer' believes Jesus, why is the 'believer' getting snarky when persecuted instead of rejoicing? You seem to give the actual teachings fully optional status, so why have a faith at all? 'Jesus said to rejoice but we want to have a tantrum instead.'

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I fell that if someone believes in God, goes [View all] frankieallen May 2016 OP

Expect a strong reaction to your comment tymorial May 2016 #1

Agreed, thanks for pointing that out. frankieallen May 2016 #5

We do not have to respect beliefs. SouthernDemLinda May 2016 #49

I would characterize this post as recycled drivel, but that would be disrespectful. rug May 2016 #56

Answer to a non-rebuttal from a troll SouthernDemLinda May 2016 #62

You labor under the illusion that anything you said warrants a rebuttal. rug May 2016 #64

So what about the whole Adam and Eve, Noah and the Ark things bother you? gratuitous May 2016 #2

I didn't say it bothered me, I just don't believe in frankieallen May 2016 #8

I'm not trying to be confrontational gratuitous May 2016 #11

You seem to be complicating a simple point frankieallen May 2016 #13

The point is anything but simple, and that confounds a lot of people gratuitous May 2016 #21

Tradition? How does that rate any status? Traditional treatment of women? LGBT? Bluenorthwest May 2016 #70

Tradition is used all the time gratuitous May 2016 #75

Usually, religious folks are not ridiculed until they begin to impose their beliefs on others. cwydro May 2016 #3

You are talking about extremist Muslims I assume. frankieallen May 2016 #15

Or extremist Christians, or extremist Jews, or annabanana May 2016 #23

Yes, those extremist Buddhists can be quite violent to non believers. And I hear the Hindus frankieallen May 2016 #28

oh ffs annabanana May 2016 #30

Nope, I'm talking about any religion that tries to make others believe what they believe. cwydro May 2016 #37

I respect their right to have those beliefs, but I'll never respect those beliefs. Iggo May 2016 #4

But if you're an Atheist maxsolomon May 2016 #6

I lose respect for the religious SecularMotion May 2016 #7

+1000000 SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #9

And visa versa frankieallen May 2016 #14

Yes! TreasonousBastard May 2016 #17

Atheist are the most hated group in America. SouthernDemLinda May 2016 #50

Perhaps some of the believers that you meet are actually responding to your own guillaumeb May 2016 #52

If you 'believe' only you know that. If you demonstrate your belief through action, others see that. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #73

How about the non-religious who don't respect the religious? TreasonousBastard May 2016 #16

I'm glad that your mom is the happiest and most content SheilaT May 2016 #10

As long as it doesn't hurt anyone else, sure! Born again atheist here. nt thereismore May 2016 #12

No respect from me Matrosov May 2016 #18

As long as they focus on living THEIR OWN life "correctly" MH1 May 2016 #19

Well in all fairness, there is a lot of people raising their children as idiots where religion frankieallen May 2016 #24

There are religious people who think that dark skin is curse from god. trotsky May 2016 #20

I have no words for the stupidity of your post, you are just fishing for conflict. frankieallen May 2016 #22

You made a blanket, generalized statement calling for "respect" for religious beliefs. trotsky May 2016 #25

Ya, sure you did. frankieallen May 2016 #31

He makes a valid point. procon May 2016 #33

after I saw " he makes a valid point" I stopped frankieallen May 2016 #35

And that's OK, because I am an atheist, and you can think however you'd like. procon May 2016 #39

You made a perfectly valid point. This person clearly is incapable of Dark n Stormy Knight May 2016 #57

The point is that religion requires a total lack of reason. That's all I need to know lindysalsagal May 2016 #82

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Oh man, I took the time to write a reply, when this gif did so much better Dark n Stormy Knight May 2016 #55

Completely different things Matrosov May 2016 #40

Wow. Your apparent lack of logical thinking skills is truly breathtaking. Dark n Stormy Knight May 2016 #54

The difference is that he does it because he chooses to... TipTok May 2016 #60

The rules for group responsibility vary from group to group. stone space May 2016 #67

I feel the same way,to each his own.Just don't use religion as a weapon. wendylaroux May 2016 #26

Some of the best people I know are devoutly religious. Now most religious people Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #29

Ridiculing a viewpoint is not the same as ridiculing a person who may subscribe to that viewpoint Major Nikon May 2016 #32

As an atheist, as long as they mind their own business, I don't resent religious people. Throd May 2016 #34

There is a group for this kind of discussion csziggy May 2016 #36

I wouldn't call that a "discussion" group though kentauros May 2016 #38

I just edited my message to a quote of the Statement of Purpose for GD csziggy May 2016 #41

I agree with that. kentauros May 2016 #42

I realized that I wasn't sure of the "best" place for the OP csziggy May 2016 #44

I would also recommend the OP to try this topic in one of the other groups. kentauros May 2016 #47

Yeah, the problem is a lot of nasty bigots believe the same things. ohnoyoudidnt May 2016 #43

Up to the point where their beliefs start to interfere demwing May 2016 #45

BAM!!! U4ikLefty May 2016 #79

If a Christian follows the true teachings of Jesus... roamer65 May 2016 #46

Really? How about some of the other teachings of Jesus in the Gospels? Manifestor_of_Light May 2016 #65

I hate to be the grammar police but could you make that feel and not fell n/t malaise May 2016 #48

Poe's law, exhibit N Electric Monk May 2016 #63

Be aware, religion is just another form of politics! n/t RKP5637 May 2016 #51

Good point. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #78

Why should false beliefs be respected? Is 2+2 equal to 5? Albertoo May 2016 #53

In the Constitution, hanging gays, burning witches & condemning Christians, Jews or Muslims is wrong Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #58

Speaking of which, Saudi Arabia recently executed a witch on religious grounds Albertoo May 2016 #59

The number four is the creation of the devil. U4ikLefty May 2016 #81

They are free to do what they like... As adults... And in their own life... TipTok May 2016 #61

I believe for every drop of rain that falls, a flower grows Solly Mack May 2016 #66

cool story, bro. KG May 2016 #68

Religion topics are banned in gd...nt Jesus Malverde May 2016 #69

I'm surprised it has survived this long. B Calm May 2016 #71

They're too busy looking for other keywords..nt Jesus Malverde May 2016 #72

This post creates so much sadness in me. usedtobedemgurl May 2016 #74

I agree tazkcmo May 2016 #76

I would not do that to anyone's face unless they got in mine first. SusanCalvin May 2016 #77

Please don't fell. U4ikLefty May 2016 #80

Locking. This post belongs in on of our religion groups. Raine1967 May 2016 #83