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Response to Captain Stern (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:36 PM

8. It has a goal.

It reaches that goal.

It fails to account for the numbers adequately. It makes no assertion as to cause, but since it's presenting race as relevant we're led to assume that race accounts for 100% of the variance. That's almost certainly wrong, but since we arrive at the conclusion ourselves it's above suspicion.

The study itself, from what I've seen, leaves out controls and doesn't really address differences that might account for the outcome. Again, it leaves us with race as the sole factor.

My school has a 0% tolerance. You fight, you're in out-of-school suspension for a least one day. Doesn't matter why. First offense or 20th, no difference. I had a Latino girl in class a few years ago who intervened to keep a kid from being seriously hurt after she was knocked down and being kicked; my student was in the fight to help break it up, but when she got out of the hospital and her back injury was to the point she could use a cane, she was in OSS. Zero means zero.

The school was about 50% white last year. Perhaps 20% of the OSS kids were white. A plurality was black, with maybe 15% of the student population; in #2 position were Latinos, at 35% or so. There's something going on besides just racism. All of the kids were low income. Some were new to the district, some weren't. But there's more to it than just race.

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