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GulfCoast66

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39. This place can get discouraging

Tue Sep 20, 2016, 09:30 PM

Sep 2016

There are those who do not think you can be a good 'progressive' and support any overseas military activity. And they get into contest burnishing their 'progressive' creds seeing who can trash the US the most.

Afghanistan was a just effort. They did indeed assist, support and empower those who caused 9-11. They refused to turn them over. Under International law that is a valid reason to declare war. Everyone supported the effort.

But because Bush went full right wing idiot and then talked the Nation into invading Iraq, anything he led is seen as deplorable. Had even 25% of the resources that went into Iraq gone into Afghanistan, it would probably entering a nice period right now. Things seemed to be on a upswing, with nations in the area supporting us. Even Iran was not causing problems. When Iraq happened it all went out the window.

And now I fear we will leave the Afghans right were they were 17 years ago.

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So the latest bombing lunatic is a member of a family from Afghanistan [View all] malaise Sep 2016 OP

Finally a legitimate reason to bomb still_one Sep 2016 #1

They are morons - throw away the keys n/t malaise Sep 2016 #4

Absolutely malasise still_one Sep 2016 #12

Not much difference phallon Sep 2016 #2

And there you have it. There's a lot of unhinged stupid in America underthematrix Sep 2016 #26

That could be one factor, but I don't think it's the primary one Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #3

Really, so it has nothing to do with the 100,000 plus Afghans we have slaughtered over the last 15 CBGLuthier Sep 2016 #5

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at your response malaise Sep 2016 #6

Over 80% of Afghan civilian casualties have been caused by the Taliban.. EX500rider Sep 2016 #13

The occasional wedding party and intentional massacre be damned eh? CBGLuthier Sep 2016 #17

And some of the slaughter doesn't make the news malaise Sep 2016 #18

When US troops start beheading and stoning women for adultery let me know.. EX500rider Sep 2016 #37

So accidents and rogue soldiers is all you have? EX500rider Sep 2016 #35

Remember when the Taliban attacked the MSF hospital in Kunduz with their AC-130 gunship? LeftyMom Sep 2016 #23

Remember when the Afghan Special Forces had a town overrun and called in a airstrike on it... EX500rider Sep 2016 #36

no it doesnt. especially since its afghan muslims doing most of those killings JI7 Sep 2016 #22

And yet they didn't do this in Russia who also went to war before the USA even thought to go yeoman6987 Sep 2016 #32

Apparently the restaurant sued the city Warpy Sep 2016 #7

Awkward at everything - fugging loser malaise Sep 2016 #8

That's rather what I thought when I first heard what happened. haele Sep 2016 #15

So glad I live in a city where the sidewalk doesn't roll up at 10 Egnever Sep 2016 #33

From what I heard on the news earlier, he wasn't the "socially awkward" type at all. W_HAMILTON Sep 2016 #34

This is a very tragic situation for everyone. The_Casual_Observer Sep 2016 #9

He traveled abroad and came back radicalized alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #10

I'm wondering how he was able SoCalNative Sep 2016 #11

Afghanistan allows tourists. EX500rider Sep 2016 #14

Identity documents from other countries belong to those countries malaise Sep 2016 #20

Is there some reason a US citizen can't visit? jberryhill Sep 2016 #27

Uh...no. stone space Sep 2016 #31

Hmmmmmmmm or he saw what malaise Sep 2016 #16

Not just his homeland loyalsister Sep 2016 #24

It's a mess sister malaise Sep 2016 #25

"we and our allies did to his homeland?" EX500rider Sep 2016 #38

This place can get discouraging GulfCoast66 Sep 2016 #39

Another man pushed over the edge by some of trumps deplorables. ileus Sep 2016 #19

Don't know - the truth is that institutional racism and 'otherization' is always present malaise Sep 2016 #21

Don't know what Engel said, elleng Sep 2016 #28

Well the loud mufflers (digitized glass packs?) are enough to convict IMHO nt JanMichael Sep 2016 #30

How are they involved in the garment business? Dreamer Tatum Sep 2016 #29

Your commitment to deny Islam's influence on terrorism is unwavering Albertoo Sep 2016 #40