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alarimer

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4. Not that we should feel guilty, but we should try to understand.
Sat Oct 22, 2016, 07:13 PM
Oct 2016

There has always been a "Know Nothing" component to American society, but it has really taken hold in the internet age. Everyone is an expert on Google, coupled with an educational system that is less rigorous than it should be. The ignorance is not confined to the right, by the way, but it is arguably worse. It's tough also to understand those that are simply afraid of change, which is what I think lies at the heart of the conservative worldview. The world is changing and they are losing their place.

There are a couple of schools of thought that attempt to explain the divide. One is that people are divided into two groups: those that cling to the familiar and are not open to new things (although I doubt they themselves would put it that way) and those that are open. This coincides with the authoritarian mindset that occurs on the right (though there are authoritarian Democrats as well, but they are much fewer in number).

There are a couple of episodes of the Hidden Brain podcast that attempt to explain why people hold particular beliefs. And I think it is useful to try and explain rather than name-call. I don't know that it will help Democrats reach out or bring them into the fold.

It makes me sad, though, to see so many Americans fall prey to a demagogue. It does prove that Americans are no different than other cultures. No different than post- WWI Germans. It CAN happen here under the right circumstances.

I do know that some liberals do come off as smug and condescending and that's right here, among supposedly like-minded people.

Liberal guilt? [View all] mothra1orbit Oct 2016 OP
LOL Skittles Oct 2016 #1
No, I don't feel sorry for them mothra1orbit Oct 2016 #22
Jay and JFK didn't have to fight misogyny and a corporate media Skittles Oct 2016 #35
Sometimes simply accepting reality can be comforting A-Schwarzenegger Oct 2016 #2
Yeah mothra1orbit Oct 2016 #23
People can be polite and pleasant, but also deeply ignorant, not very bright and.... steve2470 Oct 2016 #3
You're probably right n/t mothra1orbit Oct 2016 #24
Not that we should feel guilty, but we should try to understand. alarimer Oct 2016 #4
In re: understanding pat_k Oct 2016 #13
Thank you mothra1orbit Oct 2016 #25
I have experienced the RW pressure to "change" my mind.. Thinkingabout Oct 2016 #5
Sorry... Don't agree. Adrahil Oct 2016 #6
Schooling.......... MyOwnPeace Oct 2016 #7
they are just racist. there are many people without formal education ergo do not support him JI7 Oct 2016 #9
Either they don't awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #10
"The Trump Question: Are You Listening?" pat_k Oct 2016 #12
See, I think on a personal, individual basis, this is a good idea kcr Oct 2016 #16
Absolutely. No "rolling over' pat_k Oct 2016 #20
For the most part I agree kcr Oct 2016 #21
but do you really think mothra1orbit Oct 2016 #30
They don't dislike the corporations treestar Oct 2016 #17
Trump should jump into the deepest hole on earth... pressbox69 Oct 2016 #15
We are supposed to be guilty for treestar Oct 2016 #18
When Trump supporters, and right wingers in general say things like "You think you're so smart" kcr Oct 2016 #19
I got a great public education LWolf Oct 2016 #28
Trump is running a con, and a con doesn't work unless The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2016 #29
I feel the same about trump supporters as I do about bigfoot hunters bhikkhu Oct 2016 #33
I don't think it's the educational system. GreenEyedLefty Oct 2016 #34
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