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colsohlibgal

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43. Great News!

Thu Nov 24, 2016, 02:00 AM

Nov 2016

Nice she stepped up to organize this. If she in some part has a selfish motive, not sure what it would be, fine by me. Gary Johnson was not going to do it. These are not normal times, a man totally unfit for that office, who is going to lose the popular vote by over 2 million votes....if we have any small chance of stopping this we must move quickly.

I am quite weary of losing when exit polls showed we were not going to lose. We must quit bring willing victims, we are like an abused spouse who accepts it.

I have little doubt Gore won, that Kerry won, and that Hillary actually won.

And it is time to fight back, to quit bringing a butter knife to a gunfight.

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Why is Jill Stein taking the lead in instigating a recount? [View all] SHRED Nov 2016 OP

It has to be a candidate, and I think there would be a "sore loser" reaction if Hillary did it. milestogo Nov 2016 #1

"sore loser"? We have time for this? SHRED Nov 2016 #3

I am just offering a hypothesis. milestogo Nov 2016 #5

Optics matter. Hillary WON this election by over two million votes. MADem Nov 2016 #86

Agreed, she has nothing to gain from this other than certainty in our elections. Qutzupalotl Nov 2016 #42

The optics of just laying down are worse bhikkhu Nov 2016 #50

agreed Cobalt Violet Nov 2016 #79

No--she gets an opportunity for more media exposure. MADem Nov 2016 #87

Robert Reich's 8-Point Plan for a New Democratic Party elleng Nov 2016 #2

K&R!!! If the democratic party stays business as usual, there will be a string of losses. First, RKP5637 Nov 2016 #17

We need to end the conservative/corporate Democrats' control of the party. Marr Nov 2016 #22

Is "Robert Reich 2020" too early? #robertreich2020foresight ieoeja Nov 2016 #33

Dunno, but imo he's set the stage for such, deliberately or not. elleng Nov 2016 #34

Wholly (atheist!) fuck. I thought he was my age. ieoeja Nov 2016 #39

1 lovemydog Nov 2016 #48

Good read. ronnie624 Nov 2016 #56

I try to take Robert in doses JHan Nov 2016 #62

Too dramatic? elleng Nov 2016 #63

He's misdiagnosed a lot of our problems.. JHan Nov 2016 #64

Sorry, but I think you're mistaken, elleng Nov 2016 #65

Some of those ideas were implemented on HRC's platform but.. JHan Nov 2016 #68

Because of patents JonLP24 Nov 2016 #71

I am liberal.. really.. JHan Nov 2016 #83

those talking points are deffo on the right of centre side of things Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #73

I just replied. JHan Nov 2016 #84

He also gets very pissy when he gets an idea in his head. MADem Nov 2016 #88

Yep.. JHan Nov 2016 #89

"taking the lead in the recount" can mean something different that what you meant yodermon Nov 2016 #4

Fixed...thanks SHRED Nov 2016 #6

I think Hillary believes her chances of flipping three states are impossibly small. LonePirate Nov 2016 #7

So the response is... SHRED Nov 2016 #9

I personally don't give a shit if they riot in the streets or whereever. Apparently they don't shraby Nov 2016 #10

Yes. Fuck them. SHRED Nov 2016 #11

I agree completely. Fuck them. LonePirate Nov 2016 #13

" The authorities and military ...." pangaia Nov 2016 #36

It was such a long shot for the Orange Creep treestar Nov 2016 #76

I'm tired of their shit. Been hearing ir for years, now really in the open. FUCK THEM!!! RKP5637 Nov 2016 #21

This, who are they to threaten us with that? treestar Nov 2016 #75

I am so tired of the "for the good of the country" excuse dflprincess Nov 2016 #15

It's the same behavior Obama is exhibiting related to the transfer of power. LonePirate Nov 2016 #20

The integrity of the electoral process should be the hallmark of our democracy - dflprincess Nov 2016 #95

True! It is not for the good of the country! treestar Nov 2016 #77

Never tell me the odds. briv1016 Nov 2016 #16

But, but, they've made a big deal about how they don't riot... Beartracks Nov 2016 #35

It would be one thing if the turnout was high loyalsister Nov 2016 #54

That threat should not deter anyone treestar Nov 2016 #74

I don't know... yallerdawg Nov 2016 #8

I'm sending her money for this one great idea. Silent3 Nov 2016 #19

Just imagine if Ted Cruz wanted the recount! LeftInTX Nov 2016 #29

Makes sense to me, actually. Hillary can't be anywhere near it AgadorSparticus Nov 2016 #12

Me too. I agree. KPN Nov 2016 #38

Yep, especially when we are dealing with a bunch of heavily-armed lunatics. GoCubsGo Nov 2016 #44

Agreed. Elsewise Trump would throw her in jail if recount doesn't change anything emulatorloo Nov 2016 #45

Eating their peas anr keeping their powder dry, duh. elehhhhna Nov 2016 #14

And send money to Jill Stein? SHRED Nov 2016 #18

Yeah about 2.0t million now in about ten hours time Land Shark Nov 2016 #24

Her whole campaign raised 3.5 million in over a year Land Shark Nov 2016 #25

Stein finally found the grass roots mother lode it appears. Land Shark Nov 2016 #26

LOL !!! pangaia Nov 2016 #37

HHahahahHAHHAHAHahahahahahahahahah JHan Nov 2016 #58

I donated and I will donate again tomorrow womanofthehills Nov 2016 #28

Who audits where your donation ends up? SHRED Nov 2016 #30

Same people that audit presidential campaigns. FEC Land Shark Nov 2016 #67

I will repeat what I said in another thread JonLP24 Nov 2016 #23

Agreed emulatorloo Nov 2016 #46

How many times has a recount been successful? davidn3600 Nov 2016 #27

538 doesn't mention they have Diebold and Sequoia JonLP24 Nov 2016 #61

1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #81

Burdens of proof are at the END OF A CASE not prior to filing Land Shark Nov 2016 #69

The election results are not going to change davidn3600 Nov 2016 #70

Publicity. NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #31

She is one of the few people that can demand a recount JonLP24 Nov 2016 #47

You're on to something...that's a possible legit theory. JHan Nov 2016 #60

The Dem Party spent 3 weeks demanding trump respect the results, little hard to go back on that krawhitham Nov 2016 #32

not hard at all if the audit shows a problem. KewlKat Nov 2016 #40

The perfect set-up for when you plan to cheat. Beartracks Nov 2016 #55

That has been my thinking for the past couple of weeks PugDadDem Nov 2016 #82

I agree! They were rubbing it in our faces, laughing at us, knowing what was going to happen! crosinski Nov 2016 #90

Can she just want to do it as a candidate to possibly help a kennedy Nov 2016 #41

She worked on cleaner elections in Massachusetts in 1998 womanofthehills Nov 2016 #91

Great News! colsohlibgal Nov 2016 #43

Ok, it's a little more complicated than black and white. JNelson6563 Nov 2016 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Nov 2016 #51

If 46 EV's are tied up in legal dispute on Dec 19th? roamer65 Nov 2016 #52

Because she's clueless loyalsister Nov 2016 #53

Hillary Can't. Perhaps behind it though. Sienna86 Nov 2016 #57

She and Jill struck a deal? JHan Nov 2016 #59

Why not? lovemydog Nov 2016 #66

If Hillary asked for this the story would be sour grapes of that woman Hillary. boston bean Nov 2016 #72

She isn't - She is scamming gullible Democrats to raise money for the Green Party oberliner Nov 2016 #78

Wisconsin officials are already getting ready for the recount - give us a break womanofthehills Nov 2016 #93

Your cartoon says it all. Vinca Nov 2016 #80

I don't believe a single word that falls out of the orange fascist mouth. mountain grammy Nov 2016 #85

Because...for the first time from me...Thanks Obama. He wants a seemless transfer LaydeeBug Nov 2016 #92

Because she can, and it is great publicity quaker bill Nov 2016 #94