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eniwetok

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17. our system destroys any democratic instinct...
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 09:11 PM
Feb 2017

Not even a Bernie Sanders criticizes the antidemocratic nature of the Senate. I don't know if he's said anything about the EC. Which is odd since much of what Sander's rails about, money in politics, growing corporate political power etc, can be traced back to our system being antidemocratic. Why can other nations have rational health care systems and we can't?

And in that example is why we can't reform. Small states don't deserve the power they have and will resist giving up the gravy train. It probably won't even matter to the progressive in that state... because like the Democratic Party... in the US we gloss over the defects in the system... or they think it will work in their favor next time. That's what many Dems here hoped for back in 04.

So we're stuck with a system that can't provide morally legitimate government, a system that gets more antidemocratic, and a system that can't really be reformed. We are a frozen republic.

And isn't it ridiculous that we are still using this antiquated, racist system, thus we have trump.. brush Feb 2017 #1
The whole electoral system of the US is Third-World-rate. DetlefK Feb 2017 #4
not just tradition... eniwetok Feb 2017 #6
New England states are small and the EC was for them as well as Larkspur Feb 2017 #2
ROTF... did you even read the link? eniwetok Feb 2017 #5
are you denying much of the Constitution was designed to PROTECT slavery? eniwetok Feb 2017 #7
The Constitution was not about protecting slavery Larkspur Feb 2017 #12
of course it's not ALL about protecting slavery.... and I never said that. eniwetok Feb 2017 #16
it's always difficult to imagine how complex systems react to single changes. unblock Feb 2017 #10
Once we think of how PEOPLE are represented... instead of "states"... eniwetok Feb 2017 #11
Oh, there's no question-- BarackTheVote Feb 2017 #3
the EC can not be fixed... eniwetok Feb 2017 #8
why isn't the House "mob rule"????? eniwetok Feb 2017 #9
The point I was trying to make was that BarackTheVote Feb 2017 #13
and making the Constitution more amendable SHOULD be a Democratic issue. eniwetok Feb 2017 #15
Conservative Blogs Locutusofborg Feb 2017 #14
our system destroys any democratic instinct... eniwetok Feb 2017 #17
We were for 10 yrs under the 1st Confederate government and in order to CK_John Feb 2017 #18
Confederate is a loaded term... eniwetok Feb 2017 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2017 #20
it's AA for somebody, that's for sure, and it needs to go. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2017 #21
don't call it affirmative action. Bucky Feb 2017 #22
I use the term.... eniwetok Feb 2017 #23
What you're describing is welfare, not affirmative action Bucky Feb 2017 #26
Answer: the EC existed before the vote of the people... brooklynite Feb 2017 #24
The voice of the People expanded in the Constitution... eniwetok Feb 2017 #25
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