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karynnj

(59,498 posts)
16. Hillary was never 20 points ahead and Macron does not have her high negatives
Fri May 5, 2017, 12:18 PM
May 2017

I agree that Hillary did better in all the debates - but suspect that, unlike in France, in the US, there were two "teams" that were much closer in size and a smaller number on the fence. I would bet that BOTH sides here saw polarized versions of the debates - especially the last one. Both likely saw their nominee land blows they thought worked. In the last debate, both really really went after each other.

From the various things I read (in English) of the debate, Macron - even as he called her out for lies, was described as cool and calm and very willing to give complex answers to the economic questions. Hillary was angrier than Macron -- and Le Pen, like Trump gave him plenty of reason to be angry. However, the big difference was that he always was favored to pick up the lion share of the votes of those who were for someone other than him or Le Pen.

Excellent summary of Le Pen dalton99a May 2017 #1
Remember, Hillary wiped the floor with Trump at every single debate. woodsprite May 2017 #2
no it does not. its one person, one vote for president.nt. drray23 May 2017 #4
France also holds elections on a WEEKEND DAY. USA needs election reform in a bad, bad way. Sculpin Beauregard May 2017 #11
Hillary was never 20 points ahead and Macron does not have her high negatives karynnj May 2017 #16
Hillary destroyed Trump in all three debates. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #3
It makes me feel sick and queasy every single day since the election when I think of it. n/t woodsprite May 2017 #6
As dominant as she was, it's hard to watch footage of the debates now. Tommy_Carcetti May 2017 #15
By Zeus, that's the truth, isn't it? Ligyron May 2017 #18
That says a whole lot about American voters, doesn't it? world wide wally May 2017 #10
I think that debates can only do so much karynnj May 2017 #17
sounds familiar.. they are ginning up the dumb vote. boston bean May 2017 #5
yes it is. drray23 May 2017 #9
She left FN to help her win the election. Orsino May 2017 #7
The French people, in general, pride themselves on the uniqueness of their cultural Eyeball_Kid May 2017 #8
If the French hate trump then they will be smart not to Doreen May 2017 #12
Well Hillary itcfish May 2017 #13
Hillary similarly destroyed Trump in the debates, her policy command vs. his tblue37 May 2017 #14
They don't want a reasoned debate. Ligyron May 2017 #19
WWE--exactly. And of course Trump performed at WWE. That is exactly his tblue37 May 2017 #20
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