Time to face facts: Assange played the left like a fiddle on TPP

[JCanete]

61. that's fine and may be true, although its hardly a coup. The same people run

and own the country who always owned it. When they think they can get nothing more out of Trump, they'll let him fall and even help take him down. They could do it now. Its not like the GOP isn't on their respective corporate leashes. If they are aiding and abetting Trump, its hardly because they're working for Russia now...its because they've given little shits about this country forever and the purpose is, as it has always been, to help transfer money from the commons to the top 1 percent by whatever means.

But whether wikileaks was carrying Putin's water in this last election has no bearing on the value of other information that wiki-leaks has provided us. I'm not exactly an Assange "fan." Without knowing him, it does seem he has a particular chip on his shoulder when it comes to establishment democrats, although that may be because they've been after his head(somewhat disappointing if not surprising), but I don't have to like the person or the motives to appreciate the information his organization has exposed to us over the years. If the messenger has a vendetta, fine, but I will always be madder at the dems or American organizations when they do dirt that can then hurt them than I will be at the person who exposes it.

Because we have to police our own, and our leaders in Washington need to be accountable to us for their actions. If those actions can be taken with impunity without threat of discovery, I don't think we're better off for it.