Why are so many here saying Russian propaganda is ok?

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31. Yes, Russia is.

The leadership--not just Putin, but military and political leaders not appointed by Putin--have basically said that they want NATO dissolved and the US seriously crippled. They've reminded us in no uncertain terms that they could reduce the US to ashes using nuclear bombs. They've acted to subvert US interests and hurt US allies.

There's little doubt that they meddled in the US elections last fall, even if a lot of DUers think that somehow their real goal was to elect Trump because, well, Obama and because HRC. They wanted to weaken the US; Obama was not seen as likeable, nice, adroit, or especially friendly to Russia--and that was during the "reset" that he and HRC pushed. HRC they wanted gone; it was personal. Trump? Job 3. And for months there's more than enough evidence that Putin rather regrets it. (Stability is more important than a lot of things for Russians. And Trump's not providing stability.)

A lot of the "collusion" alleged dates back to before Trump was the frontrunner. There's little evidence that Russia was anything but a spoiler until very late in the game. The much vaunted "celebration" at Trump's victory could be as much an expression of surprise at their influence as an expression that they'd succeeded in their cunning and devious plan.