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Oneironaut

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18. Who defines what a hate group is? The majority?

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 19, 2017, 01:54 PM

Aug 2017

I've seen every group in the current political climate called a hate group. Many people say Atheists are a hate group.

The first amendment will always be relevant and necessary. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is either uninformed or has an ulterior motive.

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When will Congress enact anti-Nazi laws similar to Germany's Strafgesetzbuch section 86a? [View all] Mr. Ected Aug 2017 OP

I'm guessing when Democrats rule flibbitygiblets Aug 2017 #1

I hope never. nt marybourg Aug 2017 #2

+ struggle4progress Aug 2017 #22

Never. And that's a good thing. onenote Aug 2017 #3

Never. Much as I hate their Nazi shit speech, I believe in the first amendment. Demsrule86 Aug 2017 #4

Unconstitutional. Voltaire2 Aug 2017 #5

Most likely never. Any such laws would quickly be thrown out MineralMan Aug 2017 #6

In my eyes, a Nazi symbol is akin to shouting "Fire" in a crowded theater Mr. Ected Aug 2017 #7

The red line actually is marybourg Aug 2017 #10

The "clear and present danger" test of Schenck v. United States is no longer law NutmegYankee Aug 2017 #13

That case was about jailing anti-war activists, and that reasoning NYC Liberal Aug 2017 #27

Never understood how America lost so many lives fighting fascism, racism and antisemitism Fred Sanders Aug 2017 #8

Because we don't fear speech. We don't fear marybourg Aug 2017 #9

Simple sarisataka Aug 2017 #16

Who defines what a hate group is? The majority? Oneironaut Aug 2017 #18

Hate groups are legally and clearly defined in many free countries. Look them up. Fred Sanders Aug 2017 #34

Then you don't understand The First Amendment oberliner Aug 2017 #26

Considering that Congress is specifically forbidden from doing so - Never NutmegYankee Aug 2017 #11

When the 1st Amendment is repealed davekriss Aug 2017 #12

I would hope zero Democrats would vote for such an authoritarian, shitty bill tritsofme Aug 2017 #14

I would not vote sarisataka Aug 2017 #15

Hopefully never, as we have a first amendment. Oneironaut Aug 2017 #17

Sincere question, is Germany not a free society? white_wolf Aug 2017 #21

Germany's history is different from ours. marybourg Aug 2017 #24

Germans and France know better. Their hate speech laws work just fine. American also Fred Sanders Aug 2017 #32

Never Egnever Aug 2017 #19

I know I'll be in the minority, but I wish they would. white_wolf Aug 2017 #20

Yep. And just as free. America is/has made a huge mistake....now it pays the price. Fred Sanders Aug 2017 #33

Never, I hope. That's not who we are. Iggo Aug 2017 #23

The republican party is the white supremacist party. KWR65 Aug 2017 #25

We have a Constitution. Let's not turn up into fascists ourselves wasupaloopa Aug 2017 #28

DU seems to have an impossible time understanding the First Amendment LittleBlue Aug 2017 #29

They had a neo-Nazi rally today in Germany - I heard it on NPR about 40 minutes ago LeftInTX Aug 2017 #30

Just think what would happen in red states without the 1st Amendment marylandblue Aug 2017 #31