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Eliot Rosewater

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29. This whole thing can work, I am not a fan of doing it without full party support but that aside

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 01:36 PM

Sep 2017

for now, this can work.

It hast to, when you think about it.

Now you know me, I am pretty sure he is gonna get us all killed tomorrow in a world wide thermonuclear war, but if we somehow manage to avoid that, I am SICK of dealing with healthcare cost issues.

I suppose if he does get us all killed, he will have long last finally solved the health care crisis.

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The Key to Selling Medicare for All to Voters Is Simple [View all] MineralMan Sep 2017 OP

Not a bad approach. It is significantly different from Sanders' plan which has no coinsurance Hoyt Sep 2017 #1

My real point is that, no matter how the system is configured, MineralMan Sep 2017 #2

I agree. It's got to be simple, show real savings, and make the change palatable/unconcerning. Hoyt Sep 2017 #5

Whatever system is proposed and whenever there is a realistic MineralMan Sep 2017 #7

To move it forward, I think you need to be able to tell the Average Jane about what it Hoyt Sep 2017 #9

Well, if a single-payer concept is what it's supposed to be, MineralMan Sep 2017 #13

I don't buy that reduction in admin cost. Fact is, docs submit the same claim to any payer and Hoyt Sep 2017 #15

Medicare sets the amount they will pay for procedures, etc. MineralMan Sep 2017 #20

Today, most insurers pay a percentage of Medicare's Fee Schedule. Providers don't set the payments Hoyt Sep 2017 #22

Your points are well taken. If only we all will have the patience to work through the political haveahart Sep 2017 #6

Not quite that simple-- who actually analyzes costs/benefits when making decisions? TreasonousBastard Sep 2017 #3

What I wrote has no details at all in it. MineralMan Sep 2017 #4

But it isn't quite that simple Mineral Man leftofcool Sep 2017 #8

Here's the thing. No. MineralMan Sep 2017 #10

No, I am not confused at all leftofcool Sep 2017 #11

If everyone is covered by Medicare or any universal system, MineralMan Sep 2017 #14

I hear you. I do think that if everyone, but a few, had the standard plan -- Doctors Hoyt Sep 2017 #12

Mineral Man, my husband and I have been on Medicare for several years. Grammy23 Sep 2017 #16

Thank you for this post. SharonClark Sep 2017 #17

Yes, I failed to mention that the Part A Medicare is already paid for. Grammy23 Sep 2017 #18

Yes, thanks. That's how most people on Medicare see it. MineralMan Sep 2017 #19

Yes, yes, yes to everything you said. Grammy23 Sep 2017 #30

Ask People on Medicare What They Think of Medicare! MineralMan Sep 2017 #32

Sorry but that IS NOT AT ALL what the proposed plan does. berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #21

I'm not talking about any specific plan. MineralMan Sep 2017 #23

You are talking about selling Medicare for All in the context of Bernie's plan being released berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #24

Thanks for your advice. I choose to ignore it. MineralMan Sep 2017 #26

Again, I am not talking about "Bernie's Plan" at all. MineralMan Sep 2017 #34

The REAL Key to Selling Medicare for All berni_mccoy Sep 2017 #25

One GREAT way to sell this to those who cant be sold, is to relieve employers entirely Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #27

Yes, a simple payroll tax, and an end to paying an insurance company MineralMan Sep 2017 #28

This whole thing can work, I am not a fan of doing it without full party support but that aside Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #29

Something certainly can work, whatever it is called. MineralMan Sep 2017 #31

We are our own worst enemies; same reason trump has the ability to cause Eliot Rosewater Sep 2017 #33

That's a different issue, but it's the issue we should all be MineralMan Sep 2017 #35