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Rilgin

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28. Do you have a link

Fri Nov 3, 2017, 06:27 PM

Nov 2017

I have heard reported that Bernie (not sure about Martin OMalley) had a similar agreement. Do we have any real details on that or those agreements. I would be curious. It would not change some of my feelings about general bias in the DNC or the use of the Victory Fund to avoid campaign finance restrictions but would change some of my opinion about the agreement itself.

Mostly I am curious if they contain the same control provisions. It would be hard to give 2 candidates the same type of rights over personnel. The document you provide gives the DNC the right to select amongst candidates provided by the Clinton campaign. Not sure if you could actually give another party the same rights because it might not practically work.

In any event, since you found this memo, do you know if the details of the Bernie agreement are anywhere online?

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Well, well: NBC News obtains August 2015 Clinton-DNC memo read this important caveat: [View all] kpete Nov 2017 OP

Thanks kpete mcar Nov 2017 #1

Thank you for the post, kpete. Control-Z Nov 2017 #2

unbelievable. How could Donna have gotten that so wrong? Justice Nov 2017 #3

When you know what you're looking for...? Control-Z Nov 2017 #9

I get the feeling both Brazile & Warren want to further divide the party onetexan Nov 2017 #138

It's probably more of a reflex to jump to conclusions if more than $27 is being talked about. nt fleabiscuit Nov 2017 #185

Neither are newbies, esp Brazille. she's a veteran. I think they think the Dem Party is fiinished an GeneMcM Nov 2017 #189

Not Finished DownriverDem Nov 2017 #219

Politico and the hill have been putting out a lot of false hit pieces recently... renegade000 Nov 2017 #11

Yes, and Politico's hitting the Brazile lies hard. Hortensis Nov 2017 #17

The Hill Clarity2 Nov 2017 #81

Hey, she has a book to sell and money to make. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 2017 #34

she is trying to sell a book Skittles Nov 2017 #38

+1 Skittles. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2017 #97

Recommended. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #4

Donna Brazile must never ever be given a role in democratic politics again. boston bean Nov 2017 #5

She needs to edit her book. Madam45for2923 Nov 2017 #8

Agreed pandr32 Nov 2017 #82

There will be. She will never be trusted again. joshcryer Nov 2017 #10

Probably insiders knew a lot of this some time ago. Hortensis Nov 2017 #21

I'm sure she's always been trying to get a nice book deal. joshcryer Nov 2017 #27

Yes! But, she lost her jobs with the party and with CNN. Hortensis Nov 2017 #36

Brazile will make MILLIONS from the book deal quartz007 Nov 2017 #149

Highly doubtful the book will earn anything. Perhaps a few paid appearances on fox. nt fleabiscuit Nov 2017 #201

Famous authors get a front end bonus quartz007 Nov 2017 #216

She is currently a member of the Democratic National Committee. nt DURHAM D Nov 2017 #22

She must be forced to resign!! boston bean Nov 2017 #62

Couldn't agree more. DURHAM D Nov 2017 #74

UN Presidented? True Blue American Nov 2017 #207

Hope snopes.com can sort this thing out in an easy read for quick reference. Baitball Blogger Nov 2017 #6

Donna Brazille just ended her career. joshcryer Nov 2017 #7

Her career should have ended when she proved she couldn't run a campaign. Boomerproud Nov 2017 #14

She ran the talking head circuit for well over a decade. joshcryer Nov 2017 #15

Ha... Baconator Nov 2017 #33

ICAM. She was a disaster for Gore lunamagica Nov 2017 #89

Thought Gore won, but for Florida fraud... that's what happened... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #176

it should never have been close enough for that to be all it took. GeneMcM Nov 2017 #191

Sounds familiar. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #205

Interesting that now Donna is suddenly the most competent, reliable ehrnst Nov 2017 #225

Well, let's hope so, anyway. She is F-U. Fucking USELESS. calimary Nov 2017 #146

Boom! Kingofalldems Nov 2017 #12

Class act MaryMagdaline Nov 2017 #13

She better not have a book signing that I can attend. 58Sunliner Nov 2017 #198

I'm betting Hachette is kicking themselves for agreeing to publish. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #212

WTF bdtrppr6 Nov 2017 #16

K&R... spanone Nov 2017 #18

Kick lamp_shade Nov 2017 #19

Thank you ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #20

No hugs for ratfuckers. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #23

K&R Scurrilous Nov 2017 #24

She Needs To Be Booted Me. Nov 2017 #25

Permanently booted. Bleacher Creature Nov 2017 #50

Thanks for the info! Cattledog Nov 2017 #26

Do you have a link Rilgin Nov 2017 #28

NBC kpete Nov 2017 #31

K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2017 #29

I do not trust Donna Brazile. delisen Nov 2017 #30

NPR said there were two separate DNC deals with Hillary. It was confusing to me. mucifer Nov 2017 #32

Hillary's JFA was amended after she secured the nomination. SunSeeker Nov 2017 #107

That document reads EXACTLY as Donna Brazile said it did. virtualobserver Nov 2017 #35

... lapucelle Nov 2017 #40

It's funny because it's true virtualobserver Nov 2017 #42

... lapucelle Nov 2017 #52

and as you can see, it doesn't have the money laundering feature with the state parties virtualobserver Nov 2017 #57

There was no "money laundering feature". There is a federal statute lapucelle Nov 2017 #69

it is still a loophole that allows individual donors to give, in this case, $353,000 virtualobserver Nov 2017 #117

Sanders had the same provision in his agreement with the DNC. lapucelle Nov 2017 #126

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #128

No she didn't. lapucelle Nov 2017 #140

She raised $80 million through the state funnel virtualobserver Nov 2017 #143

She raised $80,000,000 for the DNC and Democratic candidates. lapucelle Nov 2017 #155

not according to Donna Brazile, who happened to be head of the DNC virtualobserver Nov 2017 #163

Donna Brazile has zero credibility now. Because of the article posted by OP emulatorloo Nov 2017 #166

Who is now a proven liar or completely incompetent...you will at some point have to admit that this Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #167

You don't seem to know much about actual facts. lapucelle Nov 2017 #218

#fakenews. stonecutter357 Nov 2017 #203

Thank you, lapucelle! He had the same agreement, he just didn't perform R B Garr Nov 2017 #215

Thank you for posting the facts on this Gothmog Nov 2017 #223

Donna seems to have some problems with math: $158,200,000 is not 99.5% of $529,943,912 ehrnst Nov 2017 #224

It's like talking to a Trump supporter about Benghazi... ehrnst Nov 2017 #130

Yes...and we see how strong the feelings still are... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #168

Really? We have the full text of the HFA agreement. moriah Nov 2017 #105

Bernie's agreement does not include the state parties virtualobserver Nov 2017 #135

So you agree it's a nothingburger then? moriah Nov 2017 #142

funneling $80 million supposedly raised for state parties back to Hillary isn't a nothingburger virtualobserver Nov 2017 #147

That is untrue...and one of the reasons states waited for their money is that the race went on too Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #174

I trust Donna Brazile over this "deep state nation" site........lol virtualobserver Nov 2017 #177

FFS the source for those figures is opensecrets.org JHan Nov 2017 #192

Seems Legit lol. stonecutter357 Nov 2017 #204

You know that is untrue. moriah Nov 2017 #208

So Bernie declined raising money through a joint financial agreement... ehrnst Nov 2017 #145

He did not believe in the subversion of campaign finance laws created by the Supreme Court decision virtualobserver Nov 2017 #151

Again, that was his choice. He walked away from the JFA, and Hillary did not. ehrnst Nov 2017 #152

Then why won't Bernie release his tax returns and campaign finance reports? yardwork Nov 2017 #206

Yes, that seems to be a question very easily answered with some financial transparency ehrnst Nov 2017 #213

None were subverted by HRC. As has been shown. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #226

So, why didn't Bernie say that when the agreement was reported in the Post? ehrnst Nov 2017 #133

As long as we are suggesting-how about Old Towne Media? 58Sunliner Nov 2017 #199

Actually, it doesn't. OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #41

no "context" can change the implications of the words in that document virtualobserver Nov 2017 #45

Did you read what you just wrote? OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #54

The agreement gave Hillary control of hiring and strategic decisions of the DNC virtualobserver Nov 2017 #63

That was addressed quite adequately by others. I'll simply add this: OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #68

Good god, man, will you give it a rest?! paleotn Nov 2017 #123

There were two separate staffings - one for the primary, one for the general ehrnst Nov 2017 #154

It was kind of funny. NCTraveler Nov 2017 #83

Denial. joshcryer Nov 2017 #43

No, I can read. virtualobserver Nov 2017 #46

Can you explain how a coms director only working on the General... joshcryer Nov 2017 #48

your first reading error virtualobserver Nov 2017 #53

And? ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #56

It means that Hillary got to pick the DNC communications director..... virtualobserver Nov 2017 #59

Sanders had the same option. joshcryer Nov 2017 #64

Bernie did not have that kind of agreement with the DNC virtualobserver Nov 2017 #70

He had the option to exercise a similar memorandum as well. OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #75

Oh, please virtualobserver Nov 2017 #79

Since you asked so politely, OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #92

I said he had the option. joshcryer Nov 2017 #87

Bernie did not have megadonors that would allow him to fund the DNC with $353,000 donations.... virtualobserver Nov 2017 #94

It's rather simple, you start raising money. joshcryer Nov 2017 #98

whatever virtualobserver Nov 2017 #112

Sounds as though you have a scenario in mind that isn't being confirmed by the evidence. ehrnst Nov 2017 #211

So why are you concerned with an agreement that he chose to ignore? (nt) ehrnst Nov 2017 #148

I'm not....I'm concerned that people on this site are calling Donna Brazile a liar virtualobserver Nov 2017 #173

Then she was terribly mistaken ehrnst Nov 2017 #210

Neither did Barack Obama in the beginning but he still won. Of course, President Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #169

Where does it say that? ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #71

Did you.... virtualobserver Nov 2017 #73

Never saw that movie? TV show? ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #80

I read the memo virtualobserver Nov 2017 #85

... lapucelle Nov 2017 #100

You keep saying that. OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #110

Apparently you either haven't read the agreement or you didn't read it carefully virtualobserver Nov 2017 #114

You don't have to go through fuck-all. OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #116

you have not been quoting the agreement virtualobserver Nov 2017 #119

Just stop. OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #121

I've read it....you clearly know how to link to it virtualobserver Nov 2017 #124

Do you think my cat is posting these excerpts? OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #125

If you have read it.....and you can't see it.... virtualobserver Nov 2017 #127

Buh bye. OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #129

Yes, like so many right wingers still see something in Benghazi... ehrnst Nov 2017 #159

The Democratic Party provided Sanders with the credibility to run for POTUS ehrnst Nov 2017 #156

Yes line by line...because I don't see it either. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #171

Not necessarily Eko Nov 2017 #60

Wrong, it explicitly states: joshcryer Nov 2017 #61

From that moment forward Hillary funded the DNC and had control of hiring and strategic decisions virtualobserver Nov 2017 #66

Where does it say that? ismnotwasm Nov 2017 #72

A little bit of interweb sloothing. Eko Nov 2017 #76

Well, no... virtualobserver Nov 2017 #78

Your post does not disagree with the above poster in any way. joshcryer Nov 2017 #86

the poster suggested maybe there were two comm directors - there were not.....just one virtualobserver Nov 2017 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author joshcryer Nov 2017 #103

I do have to say this. Eko Nov 2017 #108

I couldnt find anything about keeping a communications Eko Nov 2017 #96

Then why did Donna have to apologize to Bernie? Hamlette Nov 2017 #67

She didn't ...it is bullshit for her book...she and others seem to think Sen Sanders can get them Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #175

No it doesn't I posted both agreements to you earlier...the second agreement is what Donna used... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #132

no, here is the august 2015 agreement virtualobserver Nov 2017 #137

MSNBC and NBC have posted that there were two documents. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #178

Trashing Donna Brazile is wrong virtualobserver Nov 2017 #181

Trashing Donna Brazile is wrong OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #187

I was speaking the truth about her, not smearing her virtualobserver Nov 2017 #196

A little bedtime melody, just for you: OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #200

He it is again... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #134

I think you may be thinking of this: ehrnst Nov 2017 #161

no I was reading the actual 2015 agreement virtualobserver Nov 2017 #164

You mean the one that says that it refers to the general election ehrnst Nov 2017 #165

I dont think you get it. fleabiscuit Nov 2017 #202

The book needs to be pulled and revised. lapucelle Nov 2017 #37

CBS and ABC News repeated the false version just now. That is what people will take from this. StevieM Nov 2017 #39

Her publisher's legal department will be interested in the whole story. lapucelle Nov 2017 #44

"Most people will never hear the whole story--in other words, that the story is a fraud." LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #77

Not. The. Primary. Season. NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #47

I KNEW that must be the case frazzled Nov 2017 #49

To all that were sucked in to this hysteria.... Thunderbeast Nov 2017 #51

To all that were sucked in to this hysteria.... LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #88

Good thing Festivus is coming up. BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #104

OK. Primary not rigged. So now can we cremate lexington filly Nov 2017 #55

All this fuss just to sell a few books? What honest person would do that? Bad move Donna. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2017 #58

Warren jumped the shark on this one! Hamlette Nov 2017 #65

Warren jumped the shark on this one! LenaBaby61 Nov 2017 #93

Wow, what is it about Warren you never liked? Too liberal? n/t USALiberal Nov 2017 #144

She attacked the Democratic Party by jumping on the Brazile train...I am (was) a big fan... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #179

Caveat, or fig leaf. David__77 Nov 2017 #84

KnRnTY Hekate Nov 2017 #90

What a disappointment some people have turned out to be. Starry Messenger Nov 2017 #95

She chaired during the GE. She obviously has some serious issues boston bean Nov 2017 #111

I don't think she has issues with hillary. I think she was trying to sell her book JI7 Nov 2017 #115

I don't think she has issues w HRC. I think she wanted to reinvent herself for the emulatorloo Nov 2017 #172

Honestly, when I read about all of this, I immediately started thinking back to that incident -Steph- Nov 2017 #209

That is how I feel. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #180

She should be ashamed of herself. Amimnoch Nov 2017 #99

K&R. Thank you, Kpete! Shame on you, Donna Brazil lunamagica Nov 2017 #101

From the NBC Article... Billsmile Nov 2017 #102

There's no way this wasn't intentional. Bleacher Creature Nov 2017 #106

Follow the Europeans and ban these types of people from the parties. Dawson Leery Nov 2017 #109

Oh those pesky facts Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2017 #113

I think you're overlooking something RandomAccess Nov 2017 #118

That was just before the convention ...money was needed for the convention... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #183

Then -- RandomAccess Nov 2017 #188

Donna negotiated Gore's joint fundraising agreement in 2000. lapucelle Nov 2017 #120

From Donna's Piece. Billsmile Nov 2017 #136

And? lapucelle Nov 2017 #141

Completely untrue. She confused the two agreements...deliberately I think. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #184

Did some digging, looks like Al Gore was a major bundler / financeer for the DNC. joshcryer Nov 2017 #160

Thanks! K&R highplainsdem Nov 2017 #122

This was out there... I posted a copy of both agrements...some just want to believe a certain thing Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #131

K&R RandySF Nov 2017 #139

Thank you for posting this. K & R nt Persondem Nov 2017 #150

Selling a book MFM008 Nov 2017 #153

Well, whadayaknow MrScorpio Nov 2017 #157

Well, well, well. calimary Nov 2017 #158

Publishers should pull Donna's book. And sue her. emulatorloo Nov 2017 #162

Thanks, kpete. VOX Nov 2017 #170

CNN panel on Anderson 360 debunking Satch59 Nov 2017 #182

Thank Goodness, maybe there's hope left. JHan Nov 2017 #194

I'm also waiting.... Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #186

Yo, Donna. Pfffft. Guilded Lilly Nov 2017 #190

Days of ceaseless bullshit, better spent focusing on Trump JHan Nov 2017 #193

And no one who felt glee over Ilsa Nov 2017 #195

I hope Donna lights a candle and sheds a tear for her lost integrity. 58Sunliner Nov 2017 #197

BERNIE SANDERS 2020!!!! Catch2.2 Nov 2017 #214

For what? George II Nov 2017 #222

The memorandum does not back up Brazile's claims Gothmog Nov 2017 #217

More attacks against Hillary based on lies Progressive dog Nov 2017 #220

Is Brazile a Russian agent? WTF? Nitram Nov 2017 #221

this is all well and good but Debbie Wasserman Schultz did not INdemo Nov 2017 #227