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Human error, possibly involving an incapacitated or dead pilot? johnfunk Mar 2015 #1
Only time will tell. It's very strange though, isn't it? nt Mira Mar 2015 #3
Sounds like a possibility. herding cats Mar 2015 #6
They don't because of hijackings - 9/11 dbackjon Mar 2015 #8
I know that's why the doors are locked. herding cats Mar 2015 #11
There are ways to deal with it, but no requirement that the airlines do so. Xithras Mar 2015 #15
Yes, something like that would be perfect. herding cats Mar 2015 #19
Mandated or permitted goldent Mar 2015 #32
I don't think so. This is the default system on all Southwest aircraft. Angleae Mar 2015 #56
Mahalo for your post, Xithras.. I hope they're able to tell from what's left exactly what happened Cha Mar 2015 #101
But the next disaster will involve a bad guy who forces a crew member to unlock the door groundloop Mar 2015 #16
The reality is this is a bad protocol. herding cats Mar 2015 #23
According to the experts on CNN that protocol azmom Mar 2015 #21
That's an accepted protocol on some air platforms--a FA stepping in if a pilot steps out. nt MADem Mar 2015 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2015 #13
Didn't Computer Codes Show Cockpit Doors Were Never Breached During 911??? billhicks76 Mar 2015 #40
I never heard that ever hollysmom Mar 2015 #42
It Was A CNN Report billhicks76 Mar 2015 #123
No, that was "Pilots for 9/11 Truth" horseshit William Seger Mar 2015 #125
Worth A Read billhicks76 Apr 2015 #128
Scary, ain't it? Mira Mar 2015 #48
Well, to be fair....you were wrong. zappaman Mar 2015 #67
Well Mira Mar 2015 #74
No. zappaman Mar 2015 #85
:facepalm: jeff47 Mar 2015 #60
C-Span billhicks76 Mar 2015 #124
Just because it was on C-Span doesn't make it true. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2015 #127
Um, no. Angleae Mar 2015 #62
That sounds like absolute woo to me. Sounds like you've been shopped a real bill of goods. nt MADem Mar 2015 #78
Yeah ... and the phone calls from crew and passengers cosmicone Mar 2015 #84
They made them lockable after hijackings happened Mira Mar 2015 #14
Yes, this was after 9/11 that it was required the doors bolted after the cabin doors were closed. herding cats Mar 2015 #17
They were always lockable. The doors were reinforced and a strict lock policy was set. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2015 #66
there is keypad entry from the outside that any crew member can use magical thyme Mar 2015 #114
It's so very sad. herding cats Mar 2015 #117
If the pilot was merely incapacitated, why did he program the plane for descent? mainer Mar 2015 #30
Well, that pretty dramatically narrows the possibilities. Xithras Mar 2015 #2
or three - an accident - like a blown out window maybe a bird crash. a very big bird like ostrich hollysmom Mar 2015 #44
Maybe a goose or comarant TexasProgresive Mar 2015 #49
I was kind of kidding, I thought perhaps a flaw in the plane could cause an air leak. hollysmom Mar 2015 #61
If there was such an air leak, the other pilot banging on the door would be unconscious. Angleae Mar 2015 #95
Swallows carrying a coconut jberryhill Mar 2015 #79
European or African? EX500rider Mar 2015 #86
laden or unladen? nt grasswire Mar 2015 #90
ah coconuts migrating - ah yes, I remember so well. hollysmom Mar 2015 #99
Not at 28,000 feet. Birds don't fly that high. jeff47 Mar 2015 #58
Right for the noise maybe wrong for the bird strike at 28000 MyNameGoesHere Mar 2015 #64
Question jberryhill Mar 2015 #88
When I was in the Navy we had a Intruder get hit MyNameGoesHere Mar 2015 #106
Mad? jberryhill Mar 2015 #111
Well it wan't a "magic moment" MyNameGoesHere Mar 2015 #113
Or a hijack - person waits for pilot to leave, knocks for entry, they let hijacker in thinking Yo_Mama Mar 2015 #47
Pilot probably would have said something jeff47 Mar 2015 #57
Yes, you're right about that. Yo_Mama Mar 2015 #65
Not a medical emergency. Yo_Mama Mar 2015 #63
pilot suicide ...nt quadrature Mar 2015 #4
And a potential act of terror. RandySF Mar 2015 #5
Or a pilot stroke. Or heart attack. Or aneurysm. Or seizure. Xithras Mar 2015 #7
And with the pilot's body likely in a million pieces, determining that will be very, very difficult dbackjon Mar 2015 #10
Door Locked billhicks76 Mar 2015 #41
The doors have emergency override codes. The door must have been deliberately locked from the inside Yo_Mama Mar 2015 #52
Exactly--they'll do a brutally intrusive forensic examination of their lives, just to MADem Mar 2015 #80
Or sadly, given the times we live in, recent religious conversion. bklyncowgirl Mar 2015 #103
"Hey, you did lock the door behind you when you first left, right?" n/t jtuck004 Mar 2015 #9
Whoa! Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2015 #12
I don't like the sound of this one bit. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #18
Makes me very nervous Mira Mar 2015 #20
The pilot or copilot had to take a leak Warpy Mar 2015 #27
That doesn't explain the 2000 feet per minute controlled descent. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2015 #75
Yeah, that's really weird Warpy Mar 2015 #81
K&R n/t Dalai_1 Mar 2015 #22
Wonder if any passengers made calls once they heard the pilot banging on the Gin Mar 2015 #24
Probably not. Xithras Mar 2015 #33
It's a pretty remote area. I doubt there is coverage there. bigworld Mar 2015 #54
Shades of EgyptAir 990 DemoTex Mar 2015 #25
I thought about that, too Warpy Mar 2015 #82
sounds like a suicide to me n/t :-( secondwind Mar 2015 #26
It doesn't necessarily indicate evil intent jmowreader Mar 2015 #28
I've been flying every week for the last 15 months... Roland99 Mar 2015 #29
Congrats! C Moon Mar 2015 #34
It sounds like suicide, not medical incapacitation mainer Mar 2015 #31
Exactly right. Sounds like suicide. Still In Wisconsin Mar 2015 #36
There's no way to know. Xithras Mar 2015 #38
Maybe, but one of the "experts" on tv who was a pilot of an Airbus said that plane napi21 Mar 2015 #39
Except that in avoiding a mountain the last thing you want to do is descend. Angleae Mar 2015 #96
with 150 other poor souls along for the ride? TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #46
Agreed FiveGoodMen Mar 2015 #73
That is unfortunately my thought. They will be investigating the background of the pilots still_one Mar 2015 #59
Was he planning on the other pilot leaving? jberryhill Mar 2015 #112
Sounds more like murder. It isn't suicide when you intentionally kill 150 people. cbdo2007 Mar 2015 #121
Was it a controlled descent? Android3.14 Mar 2015 #35
Yes, apparently it was. Some have speculated that it was on autopilot, but Yo_Mama Mar 2015 #53
Weird. It will be interesting to see what they figure out. uppityperson Mar 2015 #37
This happened to a Delta flight a few months ago when the door became jammed davidn3600 Mar 2015 #43
Yes, but there is always someone in the cockpit, so someone would have been flying the plane. Yo_Mama Mar 2015 #55
Another one where a third person in the cockpit Downwinder Mar 2015 #45
Egyptian airline a few years ago... silverweb Mar 2015 #50
Here's a list of the stated Yo_Mama Mar 2015 #69
DemoTex mentioned it early on. silverweb Mar 2015 #91
Well we know now that it was the copilot and it was deliberate Yo_Mama Mar 2015 #110
Agreed. silverweb Mar 2015 #122
Has the name of the pilot that remained in the cockpit been released yet.? Purveyor Mar 2015 #51
They don't seem to have said which one it was. Yo_Mama Mar 2015 #70
Oh man... how awful is that?! calimary Mar 2015 #68
Starting to look bad. TwilightGardener Mar 2015 #71
Le Monde is running the same story brooklynite Mar 2015 #72
This is very odd. In the US, there is a rule The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2015 #76
Pilot remaining in cockpit goes on oxygen during the time other pilot is away, too? Ready4Change Mar 2015 #87
That's true also. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2015 #89
I've never seen a FA go into the cockpit on a plane like an A320 KeepItReal Mar 2015 #92
I have, many times. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2015 #94
Per this morning's news, Lufthansa didn't have a policy The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2015 #115
There isn't such a rule in Europe Spider Jerusalem Mar 2015 #116
So much for "mechanical failure". nt darkangel218 Mar 2015 #83
It's not out of the question that the co-pilot fell asleep Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2015 #93
It looks more and more like a terror attack. darkangel218 Mar 2015 #97
Or suicide davidn3600 Mar 2015 #98
Psychological problems=Suicide Recent religious conversion or extremist political beliefs=Terrorism bklyncowgirl Mar 2015 #109
Mahalo for this, Mira.. so very sad for the victims and their loved ones. Cha Mar 2015 #100
No mention of passengers or flight attendents voices in this partial riversedge Mar 2015 #102
WHOW--just heard that Screams were heard and crash was deliberate...... riversedge Mar 2015 #107
Airbus seems to use the keypad and 30 second override system described above muriel_volestrangler Mar 2015 #104
It struck me how quick the authorities were to downplay the possibility of terrorism or criminality bklyncowgirl Mar 2015 #105
Suicide and mass murder. Quantess Mar 2015 #108
Germanwings plane crash: Co-pilot 'wanted to destroy plane' Baclava Mar 2015 #118
The last sentence made me shiver. Beacool Mar 2015 #120
This is a direct result of the War On Terra. KamaAina Mar 2015 #119
What if the Pilot had gone to the bathroom in Barcelona? ellenrr Mar 2015 #126
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