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freshwest

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33. BS's always been this way. HILLPAC termed his Senate run a priority.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 06:46 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Wed Aug 19, 2015, 07:30 PM - Edit history (1)

Which meant she gave him the maximum amount from the funds. The DNC has never run a strong challenger against BS in VT. Democratic Senate leaders have given him more power than he would have recieved on his own. They want what BS wants.

BS says he will NOT be a spoiler and run third party (despite hiring a Nader staffer) that would allow a hard rightwing Republican to take the office of presidency.

If HRC wins the primary, BS will come through and support her run, as will his REAL fans who care about his ideas. The hangers on that were more of anti-Clinton than pro-Sanders will ignore his pleas, most likely as they are more against her than for his ideas. Strange how that will work out, if it does happen that HRC wins in the nomination process.

The main problem we now have is -- we don't have another Obama. Neither HRC or BS are as young or at all charismatic.

HRC is close to Obama in pointing out values and is big on policy and getting things done, even if they are not what she wants to have done many times. BS is big on what is important, but hasn't been able to get others to go along with him in Congress. This is a peculiar position to be in when running for higher office, and there is none as high a POTUS.

He is not clear on practical matters of policy, but truly a great agitator. His rhetoric stirs people up, mundane talk of sausage making as HRC can turn people off. But getting stirred up and getting the important things done are two different gifts.

Obama has those qualities with a longer range vision than anyone running. He has been transformative in making structural change despite lack of support. His wife Michelle Obama says he never takes on a battle he cannot win, but that nothing will stop him once his mind is made up, to get it done.

The GOP is the enemy we must campaign against. They are more dangerous than a rattler, and want to inflict a fatal bite on the country. They want it to wither and die so they can sell it off to their sponsors.

They are doing a great job of it state by state and so many people have swallowed the Koch propaganda pills it's almost a done deal. They must be defeated, and that will require people to be encouraged and not be demoralized to make the changes we need. We all need to encourage and not demoralize each other. We're all we've got.

I wish he would visit DU. Kingofalldems Aug 2015 #1
Ain't that the truth Hekate Aug 2015 #2
He would be extremely disappointed by his boosters here. nt onehandle Aug 2015 #9
More tut-tutting for the ill-behaved. Clean your own fucking house. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #13
How nice you are shenmue Aug 2015 #15
It's no worse mud slinging than the people he's responding to. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #29
word frylock Aug 2015 #16
Faux tut-tuts! ALERT the media! Call out the national guard!! Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #43
Wish I could say the same about Hillary, but I doubt it. last1standing Aug 2015 #27
yep cali Aug 2015 #38
+1 azmom Aug 2015 #47
3 posts tazkcmo Aug 2015 #34
I don't mind Hillary, it's her supporters that turn me off her. fbc Aug 2015 #41
I have a the same feeling about Sanders and his supporters. hrmjustin Aug 2015 #51
You sound concerned. [nt] Jester Messiah Aug 2015 #52
Bernie does visit DU via surrogates, you know this. saidsimplesimon Aug 2015 #10
Who do you mean when you say "surrogates"? JDPriestly Aug 2015 #37
She shattered glass ceilings, her supporters shatter glass houses. Ed Suspicious Aug 2015 #14
That doesn't even make any sense. Maybe if you added a couple of "fuckings" to the sentence? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #31
It makes perfect sense demwing Aug 2015 #46
Why would he do that? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #21
That would probably be the last mistake of his run. Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #42
Will you cross-post this in GD-P? Hekate Aug 2015 #3
Feel free to copy and paste it into GDP, Hekate. DonViejo Aug 2015 #6
Done Hekate Aug 2015 #7
I'm already being attacked on another thread in LBN. Kingofalldems Aug 2015 #11
Would be nice if we could dial back the snark in both campaigns. Bubzer Aug 2015 #23
In reality Sanders is NOT a Democrat, for 50+ years being a Democrat was beneath him. George II Aug 2015 #28
Sec Clinton is also a quality candidate. tazkcmo Aug 2015 #35
Agree with all you wrote although I may make a post from time to time. It will be the rare ocassion. Hiraeth Aug 2015 #48
Class! Mike Nelson Aug 2015 #4
Indeed, the man who seeks to unite, not divide saidsimplesimon Aug 2015 #12
I saw the video on another thread Lifelong Protester Aug 2015 #5
Bernie has grace. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #8
Trump has turd. truthisfreedom Aug 2015 #17
Yes, he does. Grace, probity, and honorable purpose. HRC's campaign is taking note, I'm sure. Hortensis Aug 2015 #25
Common Sense Sanders has CLASS, too. blm Aug 2015 #18
He is setting a new standard. That speaks volumes and makes me respect him. JudyM Aug 2015 #19
and in that Mr Sanders shows class and integrity azurnoir Aug 2015 #20
Yet Hillary's supporters slam Bernie constantly. Autumn Aug 2015 #22
Only one group advances RW talking points, can you guess which one? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #32
Right back at ya Fred... take a hint yourself. Autumn Aug 2015 #36
By comparison, all the 2016 candidates not named Bernie ... nikto Aug 2015 #24
He's got plenty out on the campaign trail (and the "internets") to do it for him. George II Aug 2015 #26
of course he'd do it indirectly stupidicus Aug 2015 #30
BS's always been this way. HILLPAC termed his Senate run a priority. freshwest Aug 2015 #33
If the American people elect Bernie, the Democrats in Congress will vote for his bills. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #39
the DNC knows better than to try to run any candidate for any office here cali Aug 2015 #40
A Hillary supporter here - who happens to love Bernie, too! hamsterjill Aug 2015 #44
Thanks for this post. WIProgressive88 Aug 2015 #49
Good for Bernie! eom BlueMTexpat Aug 2015 #45
Thank you Bernie. lovemydog Aug 2015 #50
he's not playing their game shanti Aug 2015 #53
Too bad, I wish he would Reter Aug 2015 #54
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