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caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
24. Underage girls, not children.
Sat May 12, 2012, 05:58 PM
May 2012

However, maybe the reporter was using the term loosely. If that's the case, we don't know whether the girls in question were four or seventeen. If the latter, they'd have been only 3-4 years younger than he was.

I think it was close to the latter, because while the Uniform Code of Military Justice has a specific section on rape (which would include child molesting), it doesn't say anything about statutory rape. Which means that any punishment they gave him could only be non-judicial. At worst, that would involve maybe some time in the brig, and then discharge. Since he got a general and a not a bad conduct, I take it his military evaluations were very good. Up until he screwed these girls.

You should not presume from this news that he's pedophile. He's likely a hebephile. Preferring mid-adolescent girls. It's contemptible, but it's but it's nowhere near as bad or worrisome as child molesting, and he likely won't do this again. This guy's physical preference likely overlaps with adult women. It's not like a child molester, who absolutely can't stop, and who can't get sexual satisfaction from an adult.

But you're right. There are a lot of guys in the military who have sex with underage girls. Most of them, however, do it overseas where the age of consent is sometimes lower, or where they could otherwise get away with it, but they never do it at home. If the military had a rule against statutory rape, they'll probably have to prosecute tens of thousands of men. People in the military are well aware of this, which is why the punishment looks so light.

The only difference here is this guy chose to do it here, so the military couldn't ignore it.

yikes, this is heavy. roscoeroscoe May 2012 #1
I am surprised no one else posted this story. nt bathroommonkey76 May 2012 #2
CRIMINAL investigation? What the hell did he do? MADem May 2012 #3
Could it have something to do with this story? bathroommonkey76 May 2012 #4
Sounds likely. pinto May 2012 #5
Until or unless he's court-marshalled caseymoz May 2012 #13
I read a story recently about about a soldier who admitted to having sex with 4 underage girls. bathroommonkey76 May 2012 #16
Underage girls, not children. caseymoz May 2012 #24
The story said he was 20-21 years of age at the time this incidents took place. bathroommonkey76 May 2012 #25
And as I said, in agreement with you . . . . caseymoz May 2012 #26
I didn't mean to write the message in BOLD. bathroommonkey76 May 2012 #29
Sorry, then. caseymoz May 2012 #35
That doesn't appear to be correct - civilian law does apply. eomer May 2012 #30
You're correct 14thColony May 2012 #36
The civilian authorities should have been called on this case obamanut2012 May 2012 #34
For anyone who knows Fayetteville, NC obamanut2012 May 2012 #33
The UCMJ calls it "cardinal knowledge" gejohnston May 2012 #27
for an all volunteer Army where no one wants to volunteer in these endless wars wordpix May 2012 #31
Oh shut up n/t Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #37
I wish we did too, but gejohnston May 2012 #28
Failures of leadership are not, in and of themselves, criminal. MADem May 2012 #7
hahaha Are you sure that wasn't the local check presentation for the Afghan Lottery? haha bathroommonkey76 May 2012 #8
I found it at Army Times--they were essentially recycling the report you cited. MADem May 2012 #10
Over the years these guys have gotten away with all sorts of crimes. bathroommonkey76 May 2012 #12
I don't know a thing about this guy except that he was on a good track. MADem May 2012 #15
Is that real? There were stories of warlords getting $$$ and buying mansions in other nations. freshwest May 2012 #9
It's a pic from Army Times....the guy is a "businessman" per the blurb. MADem May 2012 #11
Sounds legit to me. People are getting blown to pieces over there. Long-term contracts, conflicts of freshwest May 2012 #21
I hope this is a sign something is finally being done about that. Lasher May 2012 #17
Yes, that's what I was talking about. I hope this stops it. freshwest May 2012 #20
you only have to read the news to know Afghan. is rife with corruption & it's true that's where wordpix May 2012 #32
Looks like a fundamental design error in Afghan currency. caseymoz May 2012 #14
MADem Diclotican May 2012 #18
Insider info Aynawneemuss May 2012 #38
I have to admit that that's what crossed my mind when they whisked him away but didn't throw him in MADem May 2012 #39
He's been sent to Minbar to be an ambassador and lead the rangers. originalpckelly May 2012 #6
You beat me to it! Gore1FL May 2012 #19
What has happened to the Army and the 82nd? Joey Liberal May 2012 #22
The Army Times GP6971 May 2012 #23
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