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delrem

(9,688 posts)
18. Context is different. Too many people ignore context, creating false equivalencies.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:32 AM
Sep 2015

I also say the context is different w.r.t. Kennedy vs Obama, as well. Kennedy was a proud Catholic, Obama has never been any kind of Muslim. People rightfully understand that "Obama is a Muslim" or "Obama is a secret Muslim", or "Obama is a sleeper Muslim", hit on an entirely different level than "Kennedy is a Roman Catholic", "Kennedy might introduce Papal Law", etc. It's the difference between lies and truth, between war and peace.

The USA has been engaged in an open and declared War on Islamic Terrorism since 9/11. It didn't happen out of the blue, but the period since 9/11 can rightfully be said to be distinct. Starting out with an intent to capture bin Laden in Afghanistan, to bring the perp to justice, a war that destroys the entire social and physical infrastructure of countries has spread from Afghanistan to Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, and can truthfully be said to now encompass the entire Middle East. Every hellfire missile fired seems to create another thousand "Islamic Terrorists", as people curse and fight back against their tormentors and are labelled "terrorists" for their efforts. The US is backing Saudi Arabia in a purely religious war between Sunni Wahhabist extremists (who are also the core component of ISIS) and a Shia population in a neighboring country (while intentionally ignoring al qaeda's conquest of territory, following their path). We still hear about this abomination in DU OPs crying out that cluster bombs are being dropped on Shia neighborhoods in Yemen - so even though the US MSM doesn't notice, we DUers should. Saudi Arabia is a infuckingcredible buyer of US military supplies. And UK arms. No bid contracts are let to "rebuild the infrastructure" even before the wars are declared and the bombs dropped - and those fat profits are in turn used to justify how the war will "pay for itself".

The USA certainly didn't have a relationship anything like that with the Vatican!

In this case, the neo-nazi presidential contender Ben Carson wasn't attacking an individual as being unfit for office. He wasn't attacking an individual like Kennedy or Obama. He was directly attacking *muslims* as such. So it's not only the context but the *substance* that differs in kind.

I don't know if any other candidate said it, but the same thing was said about Kennedy OnlinePoker Sep 2015 #1
This isn't akin to anything said about Kennedy. delrem Sep 2015 #2
Who Has Been Doing This? NonMetro Sep 2015 #4
Actually, it is very similar to what was said about Kennedy -- and about Al Smith, who ran pnwmom Sep 2015 #16
Context is different. Too many people ignore context, creating false equivalencies. delrem Sep 2015 #18
You are overlooking the context of the attacks against Smith. pnwmom Sep 2015 #22
i'm appalled. coming from trump is one thing. DesertFlower Sep 2015 #3
It sounds like the statement of a neo-nazi. delrem Sep 2015 #19
Don't hold your breath. The GOP will endorse gay marriage and abortion before that will happen. PSPS Sep 2015 #5
Iit was a really... 3catwoman3 Sep 2015 #6
Malcolm X explains this jackal: Dawson Leery Sep 2015 #7
Thank You! libodem Sep 2015 #14
That was quite some listen. delrem Sep 2015 #20
If Sanders gets the nomination bluestateguy Sep 2015 #8
Not "If" Thespian2 Sep 2015 #9
Good luck with that. Carson said it and he meant it. cheapdate Sep 2015 #10
I don't care about recent history matt819 Sep 2015 #11
+1000 nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #15
Ben Carson is channeling his inner Palin tblue Sep 2015 #12
I think there is something wrong with this man. murielm99 Sep 2015 #13
Most of the Republican candidates will not condemn Caron's remarks because they totodeinhere Sep 2015 #17
We might keep a count. Mightn't we? delrem Sep 2015 #21
Carson has spent his entire public career denigrating other minority groups without any criticism Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #23
Wow...a Muslim hating doctor. I wonder if some of his previous patients knew how much he hated them chelsea0011 Sep 2015 #24
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